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#1 Jun 18 2008 at 1:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Cheat Death: This talent has been rebalanced significantly. Killing blows are no longer 100% absorbed. If the Rogue is below 10% health, the killing blow is still completely absorbed; if the Rogue is over 10% health, enough damage will be absorbed to reduce the Rogue’s health down to 10%. For the following 3 seconds, damage is not always reduced by 90%; it is now reduced by a maximum of 90%, depending on how much resilience the Rogue has. The damage reduction will be four times the damage reduction resilience causes against critical strikes.

I'm sure everyones already seen/known about this, but figured I'd post it b/c I wasn't aware of this. How much does this bring resilience back into play, if at all?
#2 Jun 18 2008 at 1:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Doh you beat my post by two minutes! >.<
#3 Jun 18 2008 at 1:18 PM Rating: Default
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#4 Jun 18 2008 at 1:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Happy Cheat Death Nerf Day everyone!

I'll have 77% reduction with the new Cheat Death, so yay, I'm not really getting nerfed.
#5 Jun 18 2008 at 2:00 PM Rating: Good
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The more resil you have the less of a nerf it is, obviously.

It's gonna hit those rogues doing PVP in 4pc S3 and 4pc T6 the most.

Not gonna be that huge of a deal once S4 comes out since rogues will be able to get to 2k AP and 37-38% crit in nearly full PVP gear. (all except 1 ring is Angelista's I believe was the setup I tested)
#6 Jun 18 2008 at 2:58 PM Rating: Default
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Bigdaddyjug wrote:
The more resil you have the less of a nerf it is, obviously.

It's gonna hit those rogues doing PVP in 4pc S3 and 4pc T6 the most.

Not gonna be that huge of a deal once S4 comes out since rogues will be able to get to 2k AP and 37-38% crit in nearly full PVP gear. (all except 1 ring is Angelista's I believe was the setup I tested)


Why 4pc S3? Meaning S3 vs S4? I'm a nub. People PvP in T6? And theo - at 350 resil or so, I'm at ~18% crit reduction, so I'm at 72% CD dmg reduction, correct?
#7 Jun 18 2008 at 3:54 PM Rating: Good
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S4 isn't out yet, but it will be out with this patch.

However, alot of rogues that can achieve high rating, will be using their points on weapons first and foremost, meaning they will still be in s3 gear.
#8 Jun 18 2008 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
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ThomasMagnum wrote:
Bigdaddyjug wrote:
The more resil you have the less of a nerf it is, obviously.

It's gonna hit those rogues doing PVP in 4pc S3 and 4pc T6 the most.

Not gonna be that huge of a deal once S4 comes out since rogues will be able to get to 2k AP and 37-38% crit in nearly full PVP gear. (all except 1 ring is Angelista's I believe was the setup I tested)


Why 4pc S3? Meaning S3 vs S4? I'm a nub. People PvP in T6? And theo - at 350 resil or so, I'm at ~18% crit reduction, so I'm at 72% CD dmg reduction, correct?

T6 has much more AP than S3. Basically you'd use helm, gloves, chest, shoulders of S3 and boots, bracers, belt, and legs of T6, getting you to 2200+ AP and 34%ish crit.

And yes, 18*4=72.
#9 Jun 18 2008 at 10:26 PM Rating: Default
Just as my newbish *** presumed, makes me real sad especially now when i'm close to 70, it will be a little harder for the new rogues to get to high resilience now.
#10 Jun 18 2008 at 10:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Sedat wrote:
Just as my newbish *** presumed, makes me real sad especially now when i'm close to 70, it will be a little harder for the new rogues to get to high resilience now.

I got my resilience as mutilate.

It's not hard if you've got skill.
#11 Jun 18 2008 at 11:12 PM Rating: Decent
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You can get to 200+ resil by just farming honor which requires ... perseverence, not skill or anything. You should also start doing as soon as you hit 70... and there you'll get badly beaten, unless you have a lot of ... skill :)

Good luck (or rather: courage!).

nostra
#12 Jun 19 2008 at 1:32 AM Rating: Default
Yea, some people call it luck, others s3 gear, others skills, now you will come to me and say it's a combination of all right :P ?



Edited, Jun 19th 2008 5:52am by Sedat
#13 Jun 19 2008 at 2:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Sedat wrote:
Yea, some people call it luck, others s3 gear, others skills, now you will come to me and say it's a combination of all right :P ?

Nah, it's skill.

Unless you're farming S2 gear, then it's perseverance.
#14 Jun 19 2008 at 7:28 AM Rating: Decent
It's just me or this thread has been karma camped ?
#15 Jun 19 2008 at 9:16 AM Rating: Decent
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Happy Cheat Death Nerf Day everyone!

I'll have 77% reduction with the new Cheat Death, so yay, I'm not really getting nerfed.


You take 130% more damage. (after is 230% of before)

A 2.2k execute would kill you if you were at 500 hp. Before it would have taken a 5k execute to do that. Now, if it procs at 10% (max it can proc) It only takes 4.2 k to kill you, whereas before it would have been 10k.

It's a pretty huge nerf to CD, even to people in mostly arena gear.
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