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Herding Turtles, The Reality of AoE GrindingFollow

#1 Jun 17 2008 at 2:46 AM Rating: Good
So, like, I saw that AoE grinding video, and was like "I wanna DO that!" So I practiced on greys (the ones that give out food so I could lvl my cooking, it wasn't totally time wasted), and I tried to strategize where and when to do that awesome AoE stuff...


It's not that it doesn't exist. It does. Nothing makes me happier than finding out someone needs the scarabs in ZF, and, well, ZF is just, like yeah. AoE, baby.


But, for the most part, I'm finding it better to do quests. Not only is the xp better, but the quests unlock things, and give rewards that AoE grinding (or any other type of straight grinding) would give. Sometimes I get a few adds soloing and I get to practice, but it's not a common occurance that you get those pretty scenarious you see on youtube.

More often it's like this:

You know those turtles over at the Hinterlands fp (for Horde)? Well, I buffed up, ran into the "middle" of 5 of them ("middle" is quite a big area, so it's hard to draw aggro from 5 turtles in that area), and started spamming arcane explosion, got them close enough together, frost nova, check, more back, bliz, etc.

Turtles, yall! :)

Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm a little bit disillusioned about the whole AoE grinding things, but, at the same time, I'm glad it didn't work out to be "the thing," because there are so many other things.

Adapting is what it's about, bottom @#%^ing line.


About to level up again, pretty much most of it NOT coming from AoE grinding. But I know how to do it. And that practice helped for PvP, I think.

But it ain't all that. :)

Trill

Edited, Jun 17th 2008 5:51am by Trilliandent
#2 Jun 17 2008 at 6:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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I enjoyed aoe grinding on my mage, but given the changes to quest xp I don't think I'd level that way again.

I still find it fun though, sometimes I'll round up a load of spiders or blood elves and aoe the crap out of them (note to raid spec people it doens't work so well with only 1/3 imp blizzard). I was never as good as the videos (15-20 mobs), but I was mostly able to handle 8-10 without too many problems.
#3 Jun 17 2008 at 6:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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AoE grinding = boring.

AoE mobs needed for a quest = fun :)

Mastery quests - ftw!!!
#4 Jun 17 2008 at 11:09 AM Rating: Good
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AOE is a great farming tactic, but not needed for leveling. As you said - you can quest faster.

If you are looking for cloth, meat, or (later) rep, it's a great way to grind those things, but from an EXP perspective, it's not really efficient.
#5 Jun 21 2008 at 3:46 AM Rating: Default
AoE-ing quest mobs is actually faster, because you kill the mobs so fast, but still have the reward.
#6 Jun 21 2008 at 4:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Dikzakje wrote:
AoE-ing quest mobs is actually faster, because you kill the mobs so fast, but still have the reward.


Many quests are filled with caster mobs or other hazards towards AoE. In most cases, it's inefficient and dangerous to AoE your quests.
#7 Jun 23 2008 at 2:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Is it faster to aoe grind with a rested xp bar than it is to quest?

I'm pretty sure you only get a certain amount per quest that doesnt increase if your rested. I guess killing quest mobs with a rested xp bar, then handing in the quest is the best way to go.

I'm a newb when it comes to aoeing and tried it with my 52 frost mage at Sorow Hill, WPL. I found that too many times one mob would resist my frost nova and then beat me into the nether =(

Edited, Jun 23rd 2008 10:06am by arthoriuss
#8 Jun 23 2008 at 4:27 AM Rating: Good
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Quote:
Is it faster to aoe grind with a rested xp bar than it is to quest?


Short answer: No.

Long answer: Yes/No - I don't recall the time needed to get a full level of rested state - but, it's safe to say that it would take you several real life days to achieve a rested state. If you log off for one day - let's say a full 24 hrs. You might get a bar or two. While your grinding of those 2 bars MIGHT be faster from an exp per hour - In reality - you would need to leave your toon in an Inn so long - that it would be impractical.

Don't confuse EXP/Hr with leveling speed.

Example: You could earn 50,000 exp per hour if you only played 1 day per 7 day work week (Due to rested state)

However - If I just earn 20,000 exp per hour, but can play every day - I'll reach 70 faster than you - with respect to REAL LIFE TIME.

The smart thing to do is log off in an INN every day/night. Also - Let's say you have 2 bars of rested state. If you complete a quest - you still have 2 bars of rested state. You will not eat up "Rested" by questing. The only thing that eats your rested state is killing mobs and getting the rested EXP bonus.

Edit: Just formatting stuff

Edited, Jun 23rd 2008 8:38am by Borsuk
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