Yeah, I know stam and resil don't add survivability in the same way, but I also realize the only thing either stat adds to IS survivability.
So I'm faced with a gearing choice. I am currently using the old 5 min PVP trinket and the 45 stam Netherwing trinket (just for the stam bonus).
I'm fairly close to the honor to get both the 45 resil epic PVP trinket AND the 80 AP Battlemaster's trinket. What I'm not sure about is how much it's gonna hurt me by losing the 45 stam from the Netherwing trinket.
I know it's worth trading out for those 2 trinkets, but should I wait until I replace a few of my other Kara-level PVE pieces before making the switch on both trinkets?
Switching to the 2 trinkets now will put me at 9400 HP, 1600+ AP, and between 27-28% crit with 340 resil.
Also of note is that my only arena team is my 2s team with a disc priest, so I always have the 103 stam Fort on during arenas (unless it gets dispelled).
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Go with battlemasters/epic pvp trinket. The 2 min trinket is a must in arena, and the ****** button will do a lot more good for you than a flat 45 more stam.
most people say dont get the battlemaster and to get the bloodlust brooch ( i think its called). the burst damage can be nice for taking a healer down fast if you need to.
Use a Beserker's Call or if none is available a Bloodlust brooch.
I need to spend my badges on Dory's Embrace before I get Bloodlust Brooch, and I'm still a good 25 badges from Dory's.
The only other DPS trinkets I have right now are Romulo's, Bladefist's, and maybe a Core of Ar'kelos, so I figured the 80 AP from Battlemaster's would be a decent holdover for now.
I guess I can just skip Battlemaster's and grind some heroics instead of the last 10k or so honor I need, and get Dory's and Bloodlust.
Although I'm still gonna have to grind even more badges for Angelista's Revenge.
The only other DPS trinkets I have right now are Romulo's, Bladefist's, and maybe a Core of Ar'kelos, so I figured the 80 AP from Battlemaster's would be a decent holdover for now.
I guess I can just skip Battlemaster's and grind some heroics instead of the last 10k or so honor I need, and get Dory's and Bloodlust.
Although I'm still gonna have to grind even more badges for Angelista's Revenge.
There is absolutely zero reason as a rogue to get the 45 resil trinket.
Battlemaster is a waste generally compared to Shadowsong (ideal) or Berserker's Call or BLB.
There are a few cases where I'd get it, but there aren't many that I'd actually use it.
Battlemaster is a waste generally compared to Shadowsong (ideal) or Berserker's Call or BLB.
There are a few cases where I'd get it, but there aren't many that I'd actually use it.
Overlord Theophany wrote:
There is absolutely zero reason as a rogue to get the 45 resil trinket.
Battlemaster is a waste generally compared to Shadowsong (ideal) or Berserker's Call or BLB.
There are a few cases where I'd get it, but there aren't many that I'd actually use it.
Battlemaster is a waste generally compared to Shadowsong (ideal) or Berserker's Call or BLB.
There are a few cases where I'd get it, but there aren't many that I'd actually use it.
I assume you mean the 45 stam trinket.
Kavekk wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
There is absolutely zero reason as a rogue to get the 45 resil trinket.
Battlemaster is a waste generally compared to Shadowsong (ideal) or Berserker's Call or BLB.
There are a few cases where I'd get it, but there aren't many that I'd actually use it.
Battlemaster is a waste generally compared to Shadowsong (ideal) or Berserker's Call or BLB.
There are a few cases where I'd get it, but there aren't many that I'd actually use it.
I assume you mean the 45 stam trinket.
Fairly certain he meant the 45 resil trinket, since rogues aren't nearly as dependant on resil as other classes.
I'm just really light on resil overall (about 293 right now) since I basically just started PVPing and I don't have top-end PVE gear.
I figured getting the 45 resil trinket made sense since I didn't even have a 2-min trinket yet and the extra resil can't hurt.
I might be geared enough to get into a ZA group that can down Zul'jin, but I'm not sure.
If not I can always beg RP to get some of his guildmates to help me out, lawl.
If not I can always beg RP to get some of his guildmates to help me out, lawl.
Bigdaddyjug wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
There is absolutely zero reason as a rogue to get the 45 resil trinket.
Battlemaster is a waste generally compared to Shadowsong (ideal) or Berserker's Call or BLB.
There are a few cases where I'd get it, but there aren't many that I'd actually use it.
Battlemaster is a waste generally compared to Shadowsong (ideal) or Berserker's Call or BLB.
There are a few cases where I'd get it, but there aren't many that I'd actually use it.
I assume you mean the 45 stam trinket.
Fairly certain he meant the 45 resil trinket, since rogues aren't nearly as dependant on resil as other classes.
I'm just really light on resil overall (about 293 right now) since I basically just started PVPing and I don't have top-end PVE gear.
I figured getting the 45 resil trinket made sense since I didn't even have a 2-min trinket yet and the extra resil can't hurt.
I do 5s in 285 resil, even focused I don't go down very fast.
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Fairly certain he meant the 45 resil trinket, since rogues aren't nearly as dependant on resil as other classes.
I'm just really light on resil overall (about 293 right now) since I basically just started PVPing and I don't have top-end PVE gear.
I figured getting the 45 resil trinket made sense since I didn't even have a 2-min trinket yet and the extra resil can't hurt.
No, he meant the 45 stam trinket.
Everyone uses PvP trinket. If you're going to use the PvP trinket, it should be the epic one.
Kavekk wrote:
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Fairly certain he meant the 45 resil trinket, since rogues aren't nearly as dependant on resil as other classes.
I'm just really light on resil overall (about 293 right now) since I basically just started PVPing and I don't have top-end PVE gear.
I figured getting the 45 resil trinket made sense since I didn't even have a 2-min trinket yet and the extra resil can't hurt.
No, he meant the 45 stam trinket.
Everyone uses PvP trinket. If you're going to use the PvP trinket, it should be the epic one.
No, I actually meant the 45 resil trinket; it's a waste to spend 40k honor instead of 8k for 25 more resil as a rogue.
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
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Fairly certain he meant the 45 resil trinket, since rogues aren't nearly as dependant on resil as other classes.
I'm just really light on resil overall (about 293 right now) since I basically just started PVPing and I don't have top-end PVE gear.
I figured getting the 45 resil trinket made sense since I didn't even have a 2-min trinket yet and the extra resil can't hurt.
No, he meant the 45 stam trinket.
Everyone uses PvP trinket. If you're going to use the PvP trinket, it should be the epic one.
No, I actually meant the 45 resil trinket; it's a waste to spend 40k honor instead of 8k for 25 more resil as a rogue.
It's actually much more honour than that, the 25 k is down to 8 k honour.
No, it isn't, by the way. Honour is limitless, and the advantage is significant. You still want resilience as a Rogue. FREE RESILIENCE is not something you should pass down, ever.
I can't believe you dropped thousands of gold for shadowsong and won't get 25 reslience for 40k honour.
Kavekk wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
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Fairly certain he meant the 45 resil trinket, since rogues aren't nearly as dependant on resil as other classes.
I'm just really light on resil overall (about 293 right now) since I basically just started PVPing and I don't have top-end PVE gear.
I figured getting the 45 resil trinket made sense since I didn't even have a 2-min trinket yet and the extra resil can't hurt.
No, he meant the 45 stam trinket.
Everyone uses PvP trinket. If you're going to use the PvP trinket, it should be the epic one.
No, I actually meant the 45 resil trinket; it's a waste to spend 40k honor instead of 8k for 25 more resil as a rogue.
It's actually much more honour than that, the 25 k is down to 8 k honour.
No, it isn't, by the way. Honour is limitless, and the advantage is significant. You still want resilience as a Rogue. FREE RESILIENCE is not something you should pass down, ever.
I can't believe you dropped thousands of gold for shadowsong and won't get 25 reslience for 40k honour.
You missed the part that I already have it.
The point was that when you're gearing up, there's much better stuff to spend honor on.
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
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Fairly certain he meant the 45 resil trinket, since rogues aren't nearly as dependant on resil as other classes.
I'm just really light on resil overall (about 293 right now) since I basically just started PVPing and I don't have top-end PVE gear.
I figured getting the 45 resil trinket made sense since I didn't even have a 2-min trinket yet and the extra resil can't hurt.
No, he meant the 45 stam trinket.
Everyone uses PvP trinket. If you're going to use the PvP trinket, it should be the epic one.
No, I actually meant the 45 resil trinket; it's a waste to spend 40k honor instead of 8k for 25 more resil as a rogue.
It's actually much more honour than that, the 25 k is down to 8 k honour.
No, it isn't, by the way. Honour is limitless, and the advantage is significant. You still want resilience as a Rogue. FREE RESILIENCE is not something you should pass down, ever.
I can't believe you dropped thousands of gold for shadowsong and won't get 25 reslience for 40k honour.
You missed the part that I already have it.
The point was that when you're gearing up, there's much better stuff to spend honor on.
Oh, right, I'm glad you aren't saying what I thought you were.
I'd still get it, because S2 isn't out yet. Get it then recap. In fact, I did still get it and then recap.
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There is absolutely zero reason as a rogue to get the 45 resil trinket.
^ I think you can see why.
Besides which, he isn't spending honour on anything else, as you don't need Battlemasters.
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