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#1 Jun 09 2008 at 1:03 AM Rating: Default
whats the best weapons for a duel wielding level 70 rogue??
#2 Jun 09 2008 at 1:08 AM Rating: Good
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Swords.
#3 Jun 09 2008 at 1:09 AM Rating: Decent
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That depends on what you want to do at 70. If you're going to PvE a lot then go combat swords. If you're going to PvP a lot then go Shadowstep Maces/Swords/Fists. If you plan on doing a fairly even mix of both PvE and PvP then I, personally, would suggest a Mutilate (daggers) build for the versatility.

Simply put: There is no best weapon or build for everything, just go with what you like.
#4 Jun 09 2008 at 1:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Untoucheable wrote:
If you plan on doing a fairly even mix of both PvE and PvP then I, personally, would suggest a Mutilate (daggers) build for the versatility.


If you plan on doing a mix of PVP and PVE then respec. Try to get a decent amount of time on each setting, e.g. PVP weekends, PVE during the week so you minimize the respec bill but even if you respec daily, the daily q's will give you enough cash.
#5 Jun 09 2008 at 1:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Untoucheable wrote:
That depends on what you want to do at 70. If you're going to PvE a lot then go combat swords. If you're going to PvP a lot then go Shadowstep Maces/Swords/Fists. If you plan on doing a fairly even mix of both PvE and PvP then I, personally, would suggest a Mutilate (daggers) build for the versatility.

Simply put: There is no best weapon or build for everything, just go with what you like.

If you PvE and you play as mutilate, you fail.

Have fun ******* your DPS and your raid.
#6 Jun 09 2008 at 2:32 AM Rating: Decent
What about if you want to just do PvP?
#7 Jun 09 2008 at 3:11 AM Rating: Decent
Shadowstep. Preferably swords
#8 Jun 09 2008 at 4:11 AM Rating: Good
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roaringbug wrote:
whats the best weapons for a duel wielding level 70 rogue??


First of all, it's called dual wield. "Duel" is a prearranged, formal combat between two persons, usually fought to settle a point of honor (ironically enough, in WoW duels do not give honor, as opposed to BGs and wild pvp).

Most importantly, the question ("for duel wielding lelvel 70 rogue") implies that there could be other types of rogues at level 70, which is just unbelievable. Starting from lvl 10, all rogue dual wield, unless they are dumbasses that want to hold a flower in their left hand.

I must thus conclude that the question comes from a guy who has never played a rogue (or at least not beyond level 9) and has not even bothered having a look at the sticky "rogue guide" (http://www.allakhazam.com/db/class.html?wclass=4;mid=1168843786135015300;num=144;page=1) and the many guides mentioned in there, namely the beginners' guide (http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/class.html?wclass=4;mid=1182669507222021891;page=1#1182669507222021891).

Read the f.cking stickies, that's the least you can do out of respect for their authors who have put in the effort to write them... in order NOT to have to answer the same questions again and again.

nostra

Edited, Jun 9th 2008 2:15pm by nostraaa
#9 Jun 09 2008 at 4:40 AM Rating: Default
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Overlord Theophany wrote:
Untoucheable wrote:
That depends on what you want to do at 70. If you're going to PvE a lot then go combat swords. If you're going to PvP a lot then go Shadowstep Maces/Swords/Fists. If you plan on doing a fairly even mix of both PvE and PvP then I, personally, would suggest a Mutilate (daggers) build for the versatility.

Simply put: There is no best weapon or build for everything, just go with what you like.

If you PvE and you play as mutilate, you fail.

Have fun @#%^ing your DPS and your raid.


So your saying that even if I were to respec to combat swords for my PvE events and respec back to mutilate for personal events like BGs, farming, and dailies I fail? You're statement would have made much more sense had you taken out the redundant 'and you play,' making it read "If you PvE as mutilate, you fail." But, what should I expect from someone whom makes entire posts in ten seconds flat without thinking their posts through... It's almost no wonder your getting flamed all the time on the shaman forums.
#10 Jun 09 2008 at 6:21 AM Rating: Good
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I was a die-hard mutilate fan for both pvp and pve for a long, long time. Then I pulled up my skirt and got some swords and will probably not switch back unless blizz makes daggers viable again. My new favorite thing to do on the Isle is find an ally mutilate rogue and destroy them.
#11 Jun 09 2008 at 6:59 AM Rating: Good
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Mutilate < combat swords for pve, no question.

As for pvp, not so much: mutilate is better than combat swords in some configuration because it allows for a nice burst. And this comes from someone who has spent months pvping as Combat swords, then Hemo/Combat (pre nerf), then Shs/Hemo (post nerf), then Muti.

I'm staying muti because it's fun... and damn efficient in pvp (especially with a deep poison build which you cannot get as combat swords or ShS).

nostra
#12 Jun 09 2008 at 7:13 AM Rating: Decent
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I respec to combat for pve night, then back to shs swords for the rest of the week.
#13 Jun 09 2008 at 10:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Untoucheable wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Untoucheable wrote:
That depends on what you want to do at 70. If you're going to PvE a lot then go combat swords. If you're going to PvP a lot then go Shadowstep Maces/Swords/Fists. If you plan on doing a fairly even mix of both PvE and PvP then I, personally, would suggest a Mutilate (daggers) build for the versatility.

Simply put: There is no best weapon or build for everything, just go with what you like.

If you PvE and you play as mutilate, you fail.

Have fun @#%^ing your DPS and your raid.


So your saying that even if I were to respec to combat swords for my PvE events and respec back to mutilate for personal events like BGs, farming, and dailies I fail? You're statement would have made much more sense had you taken out the redundant 'and you play,' making it read "If you PvE as mutilate, you fail." But, what should I expect from someone whom makes entire posts in ten seconds flat without thinking their posts through... It's almost no wonder your getting flamed all the time on the shaman forums.

No, I get flamed on the shaman forums because I'm posting things that the shamans don't want to hear, i.e. their class is fine in PvP, they just suck at it.

You getting butt-hurt here only serves to get you rated down, not me.
#14 Jun 09 2008 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
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whats [sic] the best weapons for a duel [sic] wielding level 70 rogue??[sic]

Badge fists.

And end.
#15 Jun 09 2008 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
Dual wield Sunflare, all the pro rogues are doing it.
#16 Jun 10 2008 at 8:49 AM Rating: Default
The best weapon is not the weapon itself, but the man (or woman) behind it.

If you are that good, it wont matter what weapon you have (Well at 70 I expect you to have a pair of Blues or Purples).

#17 Jun 10 2008 at 9:36 AM Rating: Decent
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lol i dont think we're referring to skills.the subject is the best weapon for rogues.
therefore, we are referring to weapons,
personally i think its a good idea to just get the pvp swords for pve and pvp, until you can get better swords for pve. nothing really outdoes it in dps till later in raiding.
#18 Jun 10 2008 at 10:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Violentnight wrote:
The best weapon is not the weapon itself, but the man (or woman) behind it.

If you are that good, it wont matter what weapon you have (Well at 70 I expect you to have a pair of Blues or Purples).



That's all nice and good but the best driver in the world isn't going to win the Indy 500 in a model T Ford.

Edited, Jun 10th 2008 12:07pm by MentalFrog
#19 Jun 10 2008 at 10:57 AM Rating: Good
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nothing really outdoes [pvp swords] in dps till later in raiding.

Um, Badge Fists: right & left.

Didn't I say "And end." already?
#20 Jun 11 2008 at 4:29 PM Rating: Default
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So lets sum this all up for our OP friend:

PvE=combat swords spec w. a slow (2.6-2.7) weapon MH and a fast (1.5) OH.
PvP=Shadowstep swords which is just a different spec with swords still.

If you have any more questions such as the one you asked here please check the little sticky thread at the top of the page for an answer first.
#21 Jun 11 2008 at 4:47 PM Rating: Good
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PvE=combat swords spec w. a slow (2.6-2.7) weapon MH and a fast (1.5) OH.


No.

Yes you want Combat Swords. No you don't want slow. You want highest average weapon damage for main hand and fast for off hand.

If they made a weapon with 1.4 speed and a damage range of 900-1000 you would take that over a weapon with 2.5 speed and 400-500 Damage Range. Yes that will never happen and yes, in general a slower weapon will have a higher average weapon damage; but people really need to stop saying a slow weapon.
#22 Jun 11 2008 at 4:59 PM Rating: Default
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Well I doubt our OP knows a lot about theorycrafting even if it is just weapon damage. So I find it easier to explain to people by saying slow weapons because as you said they tend to be slower weapons in the MH category. I was simply trying to speak as much ****** as possible to assist our non-sticky reading posters.
#23 Jun 11 2008 at 9:51 PM Rating: Good
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And to the OP, your answer is using a Failsteel LolBlade, I mean Felsteel Longblade in each hand.
#24 Jun 13 2008 at 7:26 AM Rating: Decent
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nothing really outdoes [pvp swords] in dps till later in raiding.

Um, Badge Fists: right & left.

Didn't I say "And end." already?


well i wasnt exactly putting those into account, im just saying that until you can afford or obtain something better (like badge weapons) the glad swords will do. :D
#25 Jun 19 2008 at 9:13 AM Rating: Good
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If you PvE and you play as mutilate, you fail.

Have fun @#%^ing your DPS and your raid.


I decided to start playing my rogue again, and was looking through the forums because i wanted to raid and pvp now, but am almost broke so i figured a good spec that could go both ways is mutilate. Will it really mess me up? Or is it just second(or third or w/e) to combat swords?
#26 Jun 19 2008 at 9:19 AM Rating: Good
Best? Warglaives of Azzinoth. NEXT QUESTION.
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