Tired of tanking.....advice needed from master magesFollow

At level 13 go frost. The slowing abilities in the other trees don't exist yet. Your normal spell rotation will look like this. Select mob you intend to kill. Stand at maximum range. Shoot a frost bolt to slow him down in his walk towards you. Shoot a fireball. He'll be on top of you now, allowing only instant cast spells to avoid interruptions. Cast pyroblast and blink away. Turn around and finish off the mob. Use arcane missles if he's still got appreciable health left or just use your wand if he's nearly dead.

Pick a two-handed weapon, like a staff. That stats from a two-handed weapons will exceed the combined stats of two one-handed items. Go visit the weapon trainer, Woo-ping, in the trade district of Stormwind. He can teach you to wield staves. When purchasing armor and weaponry select items with names like 'of the eagle'. Those have bonuses for intellect and stamina. Avoid items with bonuses for strength. Agility and spirit are of limited usefulness.

Edited, Jun 6th 2008 1:37pm by ItsaGaAs

here is the build I was thinking tell me your thoughts



Arcane (10 points)

Arcane Subtlety - Rank 2/2
Reduces your target's resistance to all your spells by 10 and reduces the threat caused by your Arcane spells by 40%.

Arcane Focus - Rank 3/5
Reduces the chance that the opponent can resist your Arcane spells by 6%.

Arcane Concentration - Rank 5/5
Gives you a 10% chance of entering a Clearcasting state after any damage spell hits a target. The Clearcasting state reduces the mana cost of your next damage spell by 100%.

Fire (48 points)

Improved Fireball - Rank 5/5
Reduces the casting time of your Fireball spell by 0.5 sec.

Ignite - Rank 5/5
Your critical strikes from Fire damage spells cause the target to burn for an additional 40% of your spell's damage over 4 sec.

Flame Throwing - Rank 2/2
Increases the range of your Fire spells by 6 yards.

Improved Fire Blast - Rank 1/3
Reduces the cooldown of your Fire Blast spell by 0.5 sec.

Incineration - Rank 2/2
Increases the critical strike chance of your Fire Blast and Scorch spells by 4%.

Pyroblast - Rank 1/1
Hurls an immense fiery boulder that causes 141 to 187 Fire damage and an additional 56 Fire damage over 12 sec.

Burning Soul - Rank 2/2
Gives your Fire spells a 70% chance to not lose casting time when you take damage and reduces the threat caused by your Fire spells by 10%.

Improved Scorch - Rank 3/3
Your Scorch spells have a 100% chance to cause your target to be vulnerable to Fire damage. This vulnerability increases the Fire damage dealt to your target by 3% and lasts 30 sec. Stacks up to 5 times.

Master of Elements - Rank 3/3
Your Fire and Frost spell criticals will refund 30% of their base mana cost.

Playing with Fire - Rank 3/3
Increases all spell damage caused by 3% and all spell damage taken by 3%.

Critical Mass - Rank 3/3
Increases the critical strike chance of your Fire spells by 6%.

Blast Wave - Rank 1/1
A wave of flame radiates outward from the caster, damaging all enemies caught within the blast for 154 to 186 Fire damage, and Dazing them for 6 sec.

Fire Power - Rank 5/5
Increases the damage done by your Fire spells by 10%.

Pyromaniac - Rank 3/3
Increases chance to critically hit and reduces the mana cost of all Fire spells by an additional 3%.

Combustion - Rank 1/1
When activated, this spell causes each of your Fire damage spell hits to increase your critical strike chance with Fire damage spells by 10%. This effect lasts until you have caused 3 critical strikes with Fire spells.

Molten Fury - Rank 2/2
Increases damage of all spells against targets with less than 20% health by 20%.

Empowered Fireball - Rank 5/5
Your Fireball spell gains an additional 15% of your bonus spell damage effects.

Dragon's Breath - Rank 1/1
Targets in a cone in front of the caster take 370 to 430 Fire damage and are Disoriented for 3 sec. Any direct damaging attack will revive targets. Turns off your attack when used.

Frost (3 points)

Elemental Precision - Rank 3/3
Reduces the mana cost and chance targets resist your Frost and Fire spells by 3%.

I'm assuming you meant fireblast?

I'm diggin into my very old memory here, but im pretty sure as a mage, especially in low levels you will be going oom very often. So make plenty of water. I agree frost is ideal for leveling, mostly because it gives you control of difficult fights sooner.
A fire specc'd mage will start a pull with pyroblast or if impatient fireball, then follow with a fireball, then usualy 1 scorch or 2 will drop it. Often you have a kill before it reaches you.
Unfortunetly, while leveling not everything will be single mob pulls, or normal mobs and going frost will give much better chances.
Many elites can be frozen.
Open with frostbolts till it reaches you.
Frost nova, rotate 180 blink. maybe run a little more untill only 3 seconds left in nova.
Frost bolt spam again.
keep kiting.
3 or more mobs?
Open with frostbolt
Before it lands, start pollymorph on another. Now its 2v1 with 1 already hit. Finish killing the hurt one, use nova and blink to avoid damage. Keep sheep up untill its last one left.
If you have 2 or more mobs beating on you and Frost nova is on Cooldown, pop icy veins, not being interupted is huuge.

Also, if your going enchanting, you will be able to make wands. If you had a gold base those wands will be doing more dps than your spells can. So feel free to sit there, take damage and finish with wanding. Use your health pool as another tool.

Frost will also give you the ability to solo Elites in instances when a bad tank or healer doesn't pull there weight. And you feel like a king tank dies, but you still finish a pull.

only stats to worry about for a very long time. mainhand/offhand or staff whatever items gives you more at the time, usualy it is staves. But keep the sword or offhand in the bank incase a better of either comes.

** the 2/48/3 is a fire raid spec,is a good raid spec, does not mean it is for leveling **

Edited, Jun 6th 2008 5:40pm by CalenciaBlue

please do not go 10/48/3 while lvling. Only spec that way at 70 wish a good amount of spell dmg (like 800, but then i would recommend going 2/48/11) 10/48/3 is an old build and should only be used if you want to stay deep fire (as apposed to arc/fire) and you have still have mana issues. 2/48/11 is higher dmg output but should really only be used again at 70 with t least 800 +dmg


lvl whatever you like. i lvled 1-70 fire and loved it, didnt have to worry about blinking away cause i usually just killed the mob before it got to me. But be prepared to do alot of running as especially fire at low lvls, its pretty tough to take on multiple mobs if you pull on accident.

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OP: As long as you put those points into Arcane last, you shouldn't have a problem leveling. You will be fine in BGs but don't expect to last long in any small-scale PvP or have a future in the Arena scene as a fire mage. Frost is definitely where it's at for high-end PvP. If you want to just dabble, fire is fine. Lotsa fun two-shotting foes when combustion is up in BGs.

PS -- I don't know if mages have more "substance" than tanking. IMO, tanking is the toughest thing in the game. When I want a vacation from tank stress I hope on my mage and fry mobs.