Here's my question, Just recently (month or two) I started picking up my arena gear, Going for all epics since i already had more then enough pve experience. I read up a lot on pvp did many bg's before and collected gear for a while, now i'm in full pvp gear and getting quite enough points from my arena teams. What i've noticed tho reading all this theorycraft for warriors is that they alllllll go for arms/fury specs.
As a Ms warrior with endless rage and last stand in my build i survive pretty much anything in my 2's with my pally. I wreck through warriors in full s3 yet i am undergeared to fight them just for the sheer fact they don't spec past mortal strike.
My current spec: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xdAboghdioVZf0t
I want to learn why so many people are opposed to survivabily on a warrior as opposed to a bit of extra dps, I just recently tried out arms/fury for flury and I've been pretty rage starved the whole time even tho i read up on what skills to use to avoid this, In all honesty improved mortal strike gives me more overall damage then flurry imo.
The 1 seconds cool down and 5% more damage helps a lot when dpsing anyone specially sword spec burst damage mortal strike + crit is pretty much a game winner, usually after a combo like that my pally silences healer or i intercept/pummel the healer and it's gg.
I run at 1700 in 2's and 1600+ in 3's , had a bit of bad luck this week in 3's but considering i'm on rampage battlegroup (everyone over 1600 rating is in full s3) i think my 2's does pretty well.
Does anyone have any experience with this build? Why flurry i think overall full arms works much better. Has there just been a lack of people using this build to notice that it can be viable and even triumph many flurry builds? Looking for oppinions, flame away.
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endless rage isnt bad per se, its just that in a lot of cases theres better to be had in the fury tree. while you have last stand and endless rage+ms, i have piercing howl, enrage, disarm duration reduction, less chance to be dodged and the ability to DPS two targets at once with sweeping strikes. all that, and i get TM, MS and second wind as well.
take for instance a mirror match, the other warrior is 33/28, you are ER/last stand. he crits you, you take damage, end of story. you crit him, he takes damage and gains +25% damage thanks to enrage. in a mirror match, even with equal gear, youll lose because of that. 25% more damage thats up nearly constantly is better than what last stand offers, especially in a war+healer setup where you really are the sole DPS.
now, in certain 5's or 3's setups, having ER isnt a bad thing. it can actually work out for the right people in the right comps. but generally, anything past 35 points in arms is lackluster compared to what you can get by speccing deeper into fury. even with ER giving more rage on account of the bug fix its still a high cost for what is generally a marginal gain. i should know, i was 41/20 ER/enrage for a good two months, and while it was fun, and i really did swim in rage at times, the lack of disarm reduction and sweeping strikes made my life a lot more difficult than it needed to be. add into this the fat that i never really felt rage starved when i wasnt ER, and it just made sense to spec out of it. but at least i can say i gave it the old college try.
take for instance a mirror match, the other warrior is 33/28, you are ER/last stand. he crits you, you take damage, end of story. you crit him, he takes damage and gains +25% damage thanks to enrage. in a mirror match, even with equal gear, youll lose because of that. 25% more damage thats up nearly constantly is better than what last stand offers, especially in a war+healer setup where you really are the sole DPS.
now, in certain 5's or 3's setups, having ER isnt a bad thing. it can actually work out for the right people in the right comps. but generally, anything past 35 points in arms is lackluster compared to what you can get by speccing deeper into fury. even with ER giving more rage on account of the bug fix its still a high cost for what is generally a marginal gain. i should know, i was 41/20 ER/enrage for a good two months, and while it was fun, and i really did swim in rage at times, the lack of disarm reduction and sweeping strikes made my life a lot more difficult than it needed to be. add into this the fat that i never really felt rage starved when i wasnt ER, and it just made sense to spec out of it. but at least i can say i gave it the old college try.
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I see, I get the benefits i mean really tho the survivability with my build... me and my pally smoke veng teams, works fine going on the dps in a while then intercepting the healer, pummeling him, gg pretty much. i mean the extra damage is fine but i don't see it too viable, specially since i've tried two arms fury builds and they left me with a lot less rage and i can be pretty conservative.
keep in mind it may also be a function of your gear. with an S3 mace and full S3 minus shoulders, i dont really have problems with rage. if youre using S1-level stuff youll have comparatively less rage gen since youre not hitting harder or critting as often.
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i only have 2 s3 pieces so you might be right there, I will try the build again when i'm in full veng or close but so far improved mortal strike seems a lot more damage, just when i burst hit them with it improved mortal/overpower it seems to gg pretty much everyone.
With my pally buffs and my buffs i run at 2.3k attack power, also with death wish and my broach popped i can pretty much 3hit any clothy that's why imo the 1 second extra on mortal strike gives me a lot more chances to use it, making it almost spammable, also the extra damage done by it and the sword spec works pretty good together. I shall try the spec maybe later and see what happens, thanks for the advice.
With my pally buffs and my buffs i run at 2.3k attack power, also with death wish and my broach popped i can pretty much 3hit any clothy that's why imo the 1 second extra on mortal strike gives me a lot more chances to use it, making it almost spammable, also the extra damage done by it and the sword spec works pretty good together. I shall try the spec maybe later and see what happens, thanks for the advice.
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