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Two levels after that, your beautiful Death Knight looks like Schmucky the F*cking Clown....
LoL! I totaly agree, and dude, thank you for that quote! My mountain Dew just about came through my nose when I read that.
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LoL! I totaly agree, and dude, thank you for that quote! My mountain Dew just about came through my nose when I read that.
OH please! You're gonna go deathknight, I'm gonna go deathknight. Everyone is going to try deathknight. I never tried a Paladin before we got them on Horde, and I hate BE's, but I still tried it (and hated it). How can you not give it a go, honestly? Its a brand new frigging class in WoW, it could be just what you're looking for. That, and I highly doubt they are going to have the first new class suck, they want people to play it and keep playing.
#29REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 17 2008 at 11:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Alot of people are being really negative. All I said is I'm really not leaning towards Death Knight, "not everyone flame me!"...If only there was a little thing under the username of people on the web that said their name, and adress their would be alot less internet tough-guys.
You did not say that:
In your first post.
You stated 4 points as to why you're NOT going Death Knight.
Many of those reasons are pretty unreasonable.
You started a thread without much discussion to begin with.
Just saying I am not going DK for the following reasons: Point 1, Point 2, ....
Out of those 4 points you stated, only 1 of them is valid, and that is the Hybrid portion.
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I'm really not leaning towards Death Knight
In your first post.
You stated 4 points as to why you're NOT going Death Knight.
Many of those reasons are pretty unreasonable.
You started a thread without much discussion to begin with.
Just saying I am not going DK for the following reasons: Point 1, Point 2, ....
Out of those 4 points you stated, only 1 of them is valid, and that is the Hybrid portion.
Ryugan wrote:
Out of those 4 points you stated, only 1 of them is valid, and that is the Hybrid portion.
I wouldn't even call that valid. DeathKnights tank and do Damage. Are Warriors now hybrids too?
lol exactly: what did you (the OP) think you were going to get out of this? lol
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If only there was a little thing under the username of people on the web that said their name, and adress their would be alot less internet tough-guys.
If only there was a status bar under a user's name which stated their IQ and age.
Then we would know who has the mental capacity to post valid information and opinion.
We would get less "OMG [insert class here] is so overpowered" or "I hate [insert class here] because everyone else is playing it"
Wonder if he posted "I'm deff. Not going <Class>" in all the other class rooms.
Micros wrote:
Ryugan wrote:
Out of those 4 points you stated, only 1 of them is valid, and that is the Hybrid portion.
I wouldn't even call that valid. DeathKnights tank and do Damage. Are Warriors now hybrids too?
Pre-TBC, Warriors were tanks only, possibly because they were the ONLY class that produced good tanks. Since then they have become hybrids. It's tradition that makes us call them a "pure" class. It's the same with priests - shadow priests were always able to melt face, but pre-TBC they were the only viable healers, so they were forced into becoming a "pure" class.
Edited, Jun 19th 2008 8:48am by ohmikeghod
So what you're saying is we have 5 hybrid classes in WoW currently? ie, any class that can fill more than just one role?
I guess you could stretch it out even further to say that there are not just 3 roles in a group (DPS, tank, healer) but 4 roles (DPS, tank, healer, CC), and thus every class is a hybrid. Yes that's a little too far, but I don't think classes that can do only 2 things should be called a hybrid, only if they can fill any role in a group. Taht would be Druid and Paladin right now, with Druid being the truest hybrid.
I guess you could stretch it out even further to say that there are not just 3 roles in a group (DPS, tank, healer) but 4 roles (DPS, tank, healer, CC), and thus every class is a hybrid. Yes that's a little too far, but I don't think classes that can do only 2 things should be called a hybrid, only if they can fill any role in a group. Taht would be Druid and Paladin right now, with Druid being the truest hybrid.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hybrid
Hybrids are composed of two or more different things.
Hunters, Rogues, Mage, and Warlocks are straight DD with CC abilities. These classes cannot tank nor heal on a regular basis.
Druids are considered the only true hybrid, due to the fact that they can change from tank to dps with just a change of equipment and not talent spec.
Druids and Paladins are the only classes that can tank/dps/heal.
Shamans, Paladins, Priests, and Warriors are considered a hybrid class because they can perform more than one function.
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Something, such as a computer or power plant, having two kinds of components that produce the same or similar results.
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anything that is a mixture of two different things
Hybrids are composed of two or more different things.
Hunters, Rogues, Mage, and Warlocks are straight DD with CC abilities. These classes cannot tank nor heal on a regular basis.
Druids are considered the only true hybrid, due to the fact that they can change from tank to dps with just a change of equipment and not talent spec.
Druids and Paladins are the only classes that can tank/dps/heal.
Shamans, Paladins, Priests, and Warriors are considered a hybrid class because they can perform more than one function.
Ryugan wrote:
Hunters, Rogues, Mage, and Warlocks are straight DD with CC abilities. These classes cannot tank nor heal on a regular basis.
Druids are considered the only true hybrid, due to the fact that they can change from tank to dps with just a change of equipment and not talent spec.
Druids and Paladins are the only classes that can tank/dps/heal.
Shamans, Paladins, Priests, and Warriors are considered a hybrid class because they can perform more than one function.
Druids are considered the only true hybrid, due to the fact that they can change from tank to dps with just a change of equipment and not talent spec.
Druids and Paladins are the only classes that can tank/dps/heal.
Shamans, Paladins, Priests, and Warriors are considered a hybrid class because they can perform more than one function.
This. CC is not a role. The roles in a party are healer, tank, and damage-dealer. Any class performing one of these roles cannot simultaneously serve another role, unless they're in a situation rather easy. Healers won't be doing much DPS nor tanking much while keeping everyone healed. Tanks won't be doing any exceptional damage while taking hits and keeping hate. Damage dealers will not be doing a lot of healing or tanking while doing their maximum damage.
CC, on the other hand, is something that damage dealers can also do while keeping up high damage. Of course we step over these lines every so often, but not significantly enough so that roles are unclear.
Hunters, Rogues, Mages, and Warlocks are the only non-hybrids, as damage is pretty much the only role they can fill well. Priests and warriors are hybrids because they can and do fill two roles.
I can do that too:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tank
A Mage is a tank :P
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tank
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2. A usually artificial pool, pond, reservoir, or cistern, especially one used to hold water for drinking or for irrigation.
A Mage is a tank :P
What ever happened to a sense of humor on these boards ... Oh that's right: it doesn't exist :(
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Sorry you fail.
Looking up a gaming term in a dictionary where it is not used in the same context is just full of fail.
Where as, the term hybrid is a non-gaming term that can be applied to video games.
Looking up a gaming term in a dictionary where it is not used in the same context is just full of fail.
Where as, the term hybrid is a non-gaming term that can be applied to video games.
Wow, you've reached a new height in pedantry here. A guy makes a joke and you give us a lesson in English vis. 'Common Usage'.
Cheers, really lightened the mood.
#43REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 26 2008 at 9:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So, Maulgak told us his view on what is and what is not a hybrid.
Ryugan wrote:
So, Maulgak told us his view on what is and what is not a hybrid.
I came about and told him what is and what is not a hybrid.
Instead of further discussing this subject he goes on and patronizes what I said.
And I am supposed to laugh at that? Really?
Since I gave you a lesson in English already, I guess this counts as a lesson in common sense now?
I came about and told him what is and what is not a hybrid.
Instead of further discussing this subject he goes on and patronizes what I said.
And I am supposed to laugh at that? Really?
Since I gave you a lesson in English already, I guess this counts as a lesson in common sense now?
It's common sense to lose a sense of humor when discussing something?
#45REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 26 2008 at 7:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am all for humor and discussing things in a light manner.
Sinstralis wrote:
With skillful manipulation of Blink, it really isnt hard for them to evade the Charge/Sprint-less DK.
They don't really need Charge or Sprint... from what I've read, they have an ability that does the opposite and pulls the target to them.
I stated my view on what a hybrid is and others disagreed. My apologies for not seeing the need to explain myself further, but as you are pushing the matter, I will:
I want you to take that dictionary and look up the word "noob". Look up "hax". Look up "mob", "own", or any number of slang terms used by World of Warcraft players, and you tell me how many of those definitions, if any, relate to how we use them in game. Go ahead, I'll give you some time ...
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Done? Didn't come up with anything did you? I looked some of them up myself, and not a single one I looked up had a definition matching the way we use the term playing WoW. The same thing, at least in my mind, holds true for hybrid. Yes, the term "hybrid" does mean exactly what you stated, but in the sense of this game, it holds a different meaning, and was billed as such from the beginning. Meaning only Paladin, Shaman, and Druid were described as a hybrid class although they certainly never were the only 3 classes to be able to fill multiple roles.
Warrior, never billed as a hybrid. Priest, never billed as a hybrid. Death Knight, not being billed as a hybrid. If you have evidence to the contrary, feel free to link it.
As far as the joke: if anyone took it wrong, I'm sorry, but I honestly don't care. Not my problem. Some laughed, that's all that matters to me.
Edited, Jun 28th 2008 1:56am by Maulgak
I want you to take that dictionary and look up the word "noob". Look up "hax". Look up "mob", "own", or any number of slang terms used by World of Warcraft players, and you tell me how many of those definitions, if any, relate to how we use them in game. Go ahead, I'll give you some time ...
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Done? Didn't come up with anything did you? I looked some of them up myself, and not a single one I looked up had a definition matching the way we use the term playing WoW. The same thing, at least in my mind, holds true for hybrid. Yes, the term "hybrid" does mean exactly what you stated, but in the sense of this game, it holds a different meaning, and was billed as such from the beginning. Meaning only Paladin, Shaman, and Druid were described as a hybrid class although they certainly never were the only 3 classes to be able to fill multiple roles.
Warrior, never billed as a hybrid. Priest, never billed as a hybrid. Death Knight, not being billed as a hybrid. If you have evidence to the contrary, feel free to link it.
As far as the joke: if anyone took it wrong, I'm sorry, but I honestly don't care. Not my problem. Some laughed, that's all that matters to me.
Edited, Jun 28th 2008 1:56am by Maulgak
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