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#1 Jun 03 2008 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I just plopped down the cash for a second PC after talking my wife into WoW. We sat down and she has decided on 2 jobs she would like to play; rogue and warrior. Well I have a Shaman I'm going to match with her warrior and pretty much have that clued in.

I was thinking of going paladin with her rogue, but I don't know what the best PVE duo spec would be. Protection was my first thought since she will be handling the DPS, but I was thinking that on mobs that you would grind/quest on is protection overkill in the tanking department? Would I just be better of with the retrubution talents for the added DPS, or holy for the healing power.

I can't quite figure out whats the best way to go. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.
#2 Jun 04 2008 at 2:59 AM Rating: Good
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Any ideas:

- go retribution, you will kill stuff before it can do you too much harm, killing speed will be enormous
- always have a shield in your bags if the need for you to tank arises
- you can heal/protect when needed even when retribution, which doesn't hold for instances but for 2vPVE easily

---> walk in the park
#3 Jun 04 2008 at 5:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Ret would be a good way to go as Immunios already said. Another might be holy, going for a good-ol shockadin spec. For leveling as a shockadin with a Rogue you'd have a healthy mana pool for healing as you quest and also have some good dmg to help DPS. Shockadin isn't a popular solo leveling spec, and isn't even used endgame anymore, but with a Rogue I can see it working out well.

My only concern on Ret is lack of a mana pool, which means you might find the 2 of you sitting and drinking/eating more than you'd like.

GL! =D
#4 Jun 04 2008 at 6:45 AM Rating: Good
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TrotterOfSylph wrote:
I just plopped down the cash for a second PC after talking my wife into WoW.


I am in the same boat as you. We just bought a laptop and I got my wife to play. She decided to roll a warlock and I rolled a paladin.

I don't want to steal the OP thread, but would the same hold true for this duo?

Thanks.

Edited, Jun 4th 2008 9:48am by Codenamealpha
#5 Jun 04 2008 at 7:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I hadn't even thought about shokadin. I'm not 100% on how that works. I'll have to investigate that, and see how it goes.

Is MP really that bad with Ret setup? Can't I augment it with a bit of Int?
#6 Jun 05 2008 at 1:08 AM Rating: Good
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Shockadin doesn't work well pre-Outlands because of the lack of decent +spell damage/healing stuff for pallies. Post-Outlands it doesnt work either by the way. I would not advice to go that route. It will seriously gimp YOUR damage and thus the damage of the setup. If you find yourself in need of more mana, use less and just swing with Seal of Command. Judge it only at the end of its duration for minimum mana useage.

And for the combo Lock/Paladin? I think you best go Protection in that case. Roundup a good amount of mobs, glue them to you using Righteous Fury, Reflective holy damage, Shield spikes, Consecration if needed, swing and judge Seal of Light/Wisdom and have the Warlock go Affliction and DoT them all up. Full of win. Reason? Normally prot is slow, but DoTs significantly increase the killing speed, certainly if all mobs are DoTted. DoTs also have the advantage that they take a few seconds to start ticking, in that time you will have solid aggro on all mobs for the rest of the fight. The sealing/judging of light and wisdom ensures you will not need drinking too often, if at all. The affliction tree for Locks provides - aside from much improved DoTs) improved Life Tap (the warlock won't take damage anyway) and Dark Pact to ensure the warlock's continuity of mana.
#7 Jun 05 2008 at 8:46 PM Rating: Decent
Ret is good for leveling i've been Ret specced since lvl 10 and haven't looked back :)
#8 Jun 06 2008 at 7:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Shockadin doesn't work well pre-Outlands because of the lack of decent +spell damage/healing stuff for pallies.


That's like saying it's not a good idea to play a priest because of the lack of spell dmg/heal gear. The classes are made to compensate for this. I'll agree Shockadin isn't worth it in outland, and it isn't worth it at any time while playing solo. I brought shockadin up as a duo spec. Ret and prot won't have a mana pool worth anything for heals, but a shockadin will toss dmg in while also having a mana pool for healing so there's no downtime for him and his partner.

In the end I don't think it will matter if you take ret or a holy spec, just thought I'd toss this idea in the jar. =)
#9 Jun 06 2008 at 6:09 PM Rating: Decent
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TacticalRage wrote:
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Shockadin doesn't work well pre-Outlands because of the lack of decent +spell damage/healing stuff for pallies.


That's like saying it's not a good idea to play a priest because of the lack of spell dmg/heal gear.


I hate to nit pick, but no it isn't. There's a lot more spell damage gear pre-Outlands for clothies then Paladins. Granted the Paladin could just use the cloth, but for solo/duo play? Ouch.

Edited, Jun 6th 2008 7:10pm by Maulgak
#10 Jun 07 2008 at 5:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Seeing as in this case the shockadin would be off-dmg and off-heals - I don't see how armor value would matter. And before 2.3, good luck finding spell damage on anything outside of instances(even rarely in instances until the 40's). So I'll rephrase my statement; That's like saying it's not a good idea to play an Elemental Shammy because of the lack of spell dmg/heal gear.

Solo, once again, I agree. Armor would matter and thus, is another reason Shockadin does not work in solo play.

My point was - for his situation, this is an option. One I'd take over Prot.
#11 Jul 02 2008 at 4:05 PM Rating: Decent
I've been working my Prot Pally with my wife's Subtlety/Combat Rogue for a while now and I must admit it's glued me in. I'm 38 to her 37 right at the moment and we've got a pretty steady pve duo working. I suck the trash in and she works them hard with cheap shot and hemo when they're already all focused on me. Plenty of pickpocketing opportunities for her and I can just wade through the mobs doing a fairly substantial amount of damage purely from retribution aura, blessing of sanctity, and other additions. The talents in the tree plus SoW/JoW SoL/JoL keep me basically topped off while fighting. She has all the time in the world to set up her roguish onslaughts and annihlate single mobs, no aggro pulling issues from her whatsoever. I can't really speak to ret or holy experiences in the same way but I do think the prot pally goes really well with rogues and is a lot of fun (and I haven't even gotten to Holy Shield yet!)
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