So my question is how good is the 2 piece bonus? I dont see myself getting any more than 2 pieces.
My other option is to use the token to get the gladiator gloves and use my arena points/honor elsewhere which is where i spend most of my time anyway.
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Am i missing something? Compared to my Felsteel Gloves, the Warbringer Handguards dont seem like much, if any of an upgrade. Since Im still on the low end for stamina, this will hurt me there the most.
So my question is how good is the 2 piece bonus? I dont see myself getting any more than 2 pieces.
My other option is to use the token to get the gladiator gloves and use my arena points/honor elsewhere which is where i spend most of my time anyway.
So my question is how good is the 2 piece bonus? I dont see myself getting any more than 2 pieces.
My other option is to use the token to get the gladiator gloves and use my arena points/honor elsewhere which is where i spend most of my time anyway.
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well if pvp more than go for the glad gloves. the 2 set bonus does proc a lot, but it is only like 100 damage or so (cant remember the exact ammount.)
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So my question is how good is the 2 piece bonus? I dont see myself getting any more than 2 pieces.
****** useless. Absorbs like 200 dmg, which I guess is ******.
thanks, those get to turn into PvP gloves then.
Scholar
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The T4 gloves are absolutely terrible, the ONLY time i use them is for an AOE set for grinding the elves outside BT. (as you parry constantly , it is permanently up
saying that however, they are still much better than the felsteel gloves (more tps, more avoidance) and i would reccomend getting them if you still havent had maidens gloves drop.
saying that however, they are still much better than the felsteel gloves (more tps, more avoidance) and i would reccomend getting them if you still havent had maidens gloves drop.
Take a look at this thread before you decide:
http://www.theoryspot.com/forums/gear-lists-rankings/32083-berg-s-tank-gear-rankings-03-19-2008-wow-2-4-a.html
It's the gear rankings Berg compiles over at Theory Spot (a great site).
The T4 are definitely better than the Felsteel gloves. Read Berg's comments at the top of the page for his take on T4, Maiden's Gloves, and T4 DPS for your sets.
Cheers!
Tiq
http://www.theoryspot.com/forums/gear-lists-rankings/32083-berg-s-tank-gear-rankings-03-19-2008-wow-2-4-a.html
It's the gear rankings Berg compiles over at Theory Spot (a great site).
The T4 are definitely better than the Felsteel gloves. Read Berg's comments at the top of the page for his take on T4, Maiden's Gloves, and T4 DPS for your sets.
Cheers!
Tiq
I prefer the gloves from the Maiden over the T4 gloves, but the T4 are definitely an upgrade over the Felsteel gloves. They are much better than the Felsteel Gloves for threat and avoidance, but the 2 piece T4 set bonus is laughable and not a reason to wear them over the Maiden gloves.
they are already PvPified.
i like the looks of those maiden gloves a lot better and will work on getting those instead, or hell if another t4 token drops that nobody wants ill get the T4 gloves too.
thanks for the help
i like the looks of those maiden gloves a lot better and will work on getting those instead, or hell if another t4 token drops that nobody wants ill get the T4 gloves too.
thanks for the help
save badges for bonefist gauntlets and don't look back.
holy moley it's taken me months to get the 22 badges i have now! lol.
KTurner wrote:
they are already PvPified
That's cool. I'd just caution you about substituting PvP gear for Tanking gear. It's OK if you're using a piece to replace something horrible while you wait for a true tanking piece to fall or to make sure you're uncrittable, but resilience is not defense. The PvP gear, while heavy on the stam, generally has pretty crappy itemization for tanking. It's not bad for a threat set, but you're going to be missing out on quite a bit of avoidance.
my PvP glove are... for pvp though. heh
i was going to get S4 gloves next season, (limited amount of points) but now i will just get the S3 pants.
Thhen i will be 5/5 epic gear instead of 4/5 blue gear.
I put 12 stas in my Felsteel gloves and ill just keep those until either i get better gear where subbing out stats for threat is a good idea, or until i get the maiden/badge gloves.
i was going to get S4 gloves next season, (limited amount of points) but now i will just get the S3 pants.
Thhen i will be 5/5 epic gear instead of 4/5 blue gear.
I put 12 stas in my Felsteel gloves and ill just keep those until either i get better gear where subbing out stats for threat is a good idea, or until i get the maiden/badge gloves.
srsly?
one heroic daily a day + take your pick of heroic mech or SP (two of the easiest and quickest heroics) x 7/8 days = 60 badges. quicker if you run one whole kara a week.
one heroic daily a day + take your pick of heroic mech or SP (two of the easiest and quickest heroics) x 7/8 days = 60 badges. quicker if you run one whole kara a week.
Yeah, i dont PvE much heh.
The 2 set is OK for 5 mans, as well. The helm is high on block value, which I still include in my 5 man block value set specifically so I can throw the gloves in and have the 2 set. It's just kinda a niche set bonus that is pretty crappy for anything but things you could have probably done before anyways. They're also amazing for doing ZG panther boss solo runs, if you want to do that for fun. Although since you've already gotten your gloves, the point is fairly moot.
ZG Panther boss solo?
You gotta give me the 411 bro.
Cheers!
Tiq
You gotta give me the 411 bro.
Cheers!
Tiq
Holy crap...I have the trinket in my bank...gonna try this tonight.
Haven't seen the ZG panther boss in a looooong time.
Time to respec Tiq to prot and go have a little fun in ZG.
Thanks!
Tiq
Haven't seen the ZG panther boss in a looooong time.
Time to respec Tiq to prot and go have a little fun in ZG.
Thanks!
Tiq
Bring multiple shields. Seriously. With so many panthers on you, they will break fast. They don't have to be good ones, just greens will do, depending on whether you have 3-4 shields laying around.
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*shakes head*
Yes the T4 are much better than the Felsteel. I know, I know you get more stam but thats if you only care about how much health you have. Unfortunately in end game content 30K health wont keep you alive long without Mitigation and avoidance. the set bonus DOES make a difference because the damage is calculated AFTER your armour mitagates the damgae and AFTER(if its blocked) blocked value is calculated, then the set bonus kicks in! Oh nice! The strength and Agility are very helpful for everything, mit/avoid and aggro/threat. The parry stat is huge, im a big fan of parry, more so that block or dodge. Parrying an attack means no damage to you, rage generation and 50% faster next attack. For the parry alone I like the T4 but then the correct answer will always be depends. Depends what your doing, 5 man or 10 man or 25 man or heroic or mobs or boss, etc. Depends on your other gear and I agree madiens gloves are nice, of course they wont drop for me, but you should carry both. Aggro and mit/avoid. Personally I like my T4 good all round piece of serious Tank gear. By serious tank gear I mean NO PVP crap! lol the PVP stuff throws in stats and that arent really relevant for PVE. Resiliance for example, etc.
Cheers
Yes the T4 are much better than the Felsteel. I know, I know you get more stam but thats if you only care about how much health you have. Unfortunately in end game content 30K health wont keep you alive long without Mitigation and avoidance. the set bonus DOES make a difference because the damage is calculated AFTER your armour mitagates the damgae and AFTER(if its blocked) blocked value is calculated, then the set bonus kicks in! Oh nice! The strength and Agility are very helpful for everything, mit/avoid and aggro/threat. The parry stat is huge, im a big fan of parry, more so that block or dodge. Parrying an attack means no damage to you, rage generation and 50% faster next attack. For the parry alone I like the T4 but then the correct answer will always be depends. Depends what your doing, 5 man or 10 man or 25 man or heroic or mobs or boss, etc. Depends on your other gear and I agree madiens gloves are nice, of course they wont drop for me, but you should carry both. Aggro and mit/avoid. Personally I like my T4 good all round piece of serious Tank gear. By serious tank gear I mean NO PVP crap! lol the PVP stuff throws in stats and that arent really relevant for PVE. Resiliance for example, etc.
Cheers
Krullon wrote:
Yes the T4 are much better than the Felsteel. I know, I know you get more stam but thats if you only care about how much health you have. Unfortunately in end game content 30K health wont keep you alive long without Mitigation and avoidance. the set bonus DOES make a difference because the damage is calculated AFTER your armour mitagates the damgae and AFTER(if its blocked) blocked value is calculated, then the set bonus kicks in! Oh nice! The strength and Agility are very helpful for everything, mit/avoid and aggro/threat. The parry stat is huge, im a big fan of parry, more so that block or dodge. Parrying an attack means no damage to you, rage generation and 50% faster next attack. For the parry alone I like the T4 but then the correct answer will always be depends. Depends what your doing, 5 man or 10 man or 25 man or heroic or mobs or boss, etc. Depends on your other gear and I agree madiens gloves are nice, of course they wont drop for me, but you should carry both. Aggro and mit/avoid. Personally I like my T4 good all round piece of serious Tank gear. By serious tank gear I mean NO PVP crap! lol the PVP stuff throws in stats and that arent really relevant for PVE. Resiliance for example, etc.
You stopped knowing what in the hell you were talking about somewhere after T4 being better than Felsteel. Str and agi are horrible stats to look for on tanking gear, the 2 set bonus is negligable in any serious content and should never be the deciding factor in whether or not you pick the gloves. It's just NOT that kind of set bonus. It's not 4p T6. Parry is a horrible stat to stack. The gains in threat you gain by comparison to stacking dodge, in the case that you ARE stacking avoidance, are minor compared to the losses you take in pure avoidance. You also don't seem to realize that some of the PvP crap is perfectly viable for tanking, like the S2 shield, the shoulders. Ever tried building a resist set while staying crit immune? Resilience scales better than defense for that purpose. Oh, and the problem with 30k health isn't survivability. A tank with those kind of HP and a reasonable AC of say, 18k, would have an effective health pool of ~75k. The problem wouldn't be living, it would be the stats wasted in overkill on survival that could have been put into threat output.
Your understanding of class mechanics is fuzzy, and your spec also shows this. Work on that and you might see outside of T4 content.
Edited, Jun 13th 2008 1:26pm by FletusSanguine
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