redesign SV talent tree.Some ideas!Follow

Some ideas for redesign the SV talent tree.SO to be again fun to play.Also to be effective in PvP

1=improved wing clip, Change the immobilize with stun.It is only 20% of chance.So its logical to have a better cc if you hit.

2=counteratack. Same change the immobilize with stun.When you have little chance to use an ability at least if you are lucky and you can counterattack it would be something.(As warriors have mace stun)

3=wyvern sting.cooldown 1 min from 2.The 2 minutes cd its very long time for a sting that counts as poison.

4=improved feign death..useless stupid talent.change the change of the ability will be removed with this"when you are in feign death you are vulnerable for 2 sec in all attacks".Survival also in pvp.

5=Thrill of the hunt.Another useless ability.SV is about survival and not mana efficiency.At least make the 40% of regain mana cost to 100% when you crit.

6=master tactician=ok what is this?deep in SV tree we have a talent that reminds me the improved aspect of the hawk which is the first talent in BM tree.Remove it.Make a deep survival talent.Like 5 talents points when if you are under 20% of your health you take 10%(1/5), 20%(2/5)....50%(5/5)of your pet armor and health.We can call it whatever we like.Point of this talent?Survival hunter=hard to kill

Some ideas because i am boring at work!xe xe

You have right probably.Dont take serious my proposals(most of them are for fun).But MM is not a pure pvp specc.We are force to use it cause hunters do drain mana games in arena. BM is better for most of the pvp situations.

But still its sound strange to me how a talent tree called survival its better for raids than pvp.Also it still second for raids(first is BM) so if there is only one hunter in raids the best solution is to be BM right? Besides what is the point to choose a talent tree for raids which most of his talents are useless in raids.Like all the melee talents(savage strikes,improved wing clip,deflection,deterrence,counterattack) and some others that most of the times you dont use it in raids(like hawk eye,entrapment,clever traps,improved feign death etc).
So you have 22 talent points that most of the times are useless in raids.And deep deep in SV tree you have "readiness" that the most you can take from this is rapid fire!!!!but you can spent only 2 talent point in rappid killing which is better!

Imo SV is not a pure raid tree.Dont have a problem to change it in raid tree.But then lets change also his name.Not anymore survival :)

Mainly I would say that imp FD should remove debuffs like CloS or ice block, or pally bubble

Wow, that would be overpowered :)

Just to give you an idea. Raid buffed I have currently 8.7k mana and a 50% crit rate.
Imagine every seconds steady shot would refund me 435 mana. In my standard 3:2 steady spam rotation that would give me ~700mp5 just by using steady shot.

40% of mana costs on a crit is a very solid amount of mana; and it scales rather well but does not make this talent overpowered.

@Doro
- SV is not a raiding spec because of readiness. It is a raiding spec because of +3%crit, +15%agi and most important of all Expose Weakness. And you still can have those nice 20 points in MM spec which yields another 5% crit, shorter rapid fire CD and 30% bonus damage on your crits (which is huge for SV hunter who will have > 40% crit raid buffed rather fast).
- And SV is a better raid spec then BM for one hunter in the raid (because of Expose Weakness). All other hunters should spec BM as this is the spec which does the most personal damage. This is being preached for > 1 year on this board. I'm suprised you did not know that until now.