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#27REDACTED, Posted: Jun 04 2008 at 10:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hm.... not sure why you attack me personally...
#28 Jun 04 2008 at 10:38 AM Rating: Good
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It's interesting how you are trying to correct a hunter that is raiding SWP.

I'll repeat What Mul said:
1: Dont use serpent sting because in the same time, you could have cast a steady shot.
The steady shot costs less mana and does more damage.

2: dont use concussive shot because a: it costs way to much mana to be profitable (same as above, you could also cast a steadyshot for way less mana and much more dmg) and b: any mob/boss where dps actually matters cant be dazed.

If you can counter those statements we'll keep talking.




I assume that the conversation is over now.
#29 Jun 04 2008 at 10:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Also, you never run viper throughout a whole battle, total waste of DPS that you could have from hawk.
#30 Jun 04 2008 at 12:19 PM Rating: Good
ararelin wrote:
hm.... not sure why you attack me personally...
This is your second post I see you be rude.


Hi! I'm a complete jackass. You're still an idiot, though; more to the point, you're giving bad advice. Being an idiot by yourself is one thing, but leading other people down the path of stupidity is just bad.

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But Serpent sting will do dps while you use other abilities. It always should be up first and maintained through the whole fight. If you got mana issues you should increase your mp5 gear or run viper aura.


Serpent Sting costs 275 mana (base, but it gets the same reduction Steady does) and does 660 damage and 10% of your AP. Steady Shot does 150 damage and 20% of your AP for 110 mana; much more importantly, though, it can crit. Even with a fairly paltry 1800 AP (including Hawk) and 25% crit rate, Steady Shot will do more damage for about 1/3rd of the mana cost. GCDs are extremely important to doing real damage on your hunter; wasting one in order to spend more mana and get less damage is not exactly your ideal gameplan.

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And concussive shot increases the damage of your steady shot. Mouseover the ability if you didn't know that as of yet, so it is very worthwhile.


Again, you have the GCD issue. Concussive Shot doesn't cost a lot of mana, but it eats a GCD that you could otherwise use for a Steady Shot... and the 175 bonus damage to the next Steady Shot isn't worth the extra damage you'd get out of just using Steady Shot again. Plus pretty much everything important (bosses and a few heroic monsters, and everything in raids) is going to be immune...

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Not sure how you can feel to be an authority with claiming so loud such nonsense.

Ara


It's simple; because you're dumb!

Cheers
#31 Jun 04 2008 at 1:08 PM Rating: Default
I haven't shared this before but heres the best website for hunters.

http://www.qqpewpew.com/
http://www.qqpewpew.com/2008/04/shot-rotation-macros.html


You will receive all the information you need.

It supply's all the macros you will ever want. Especially the high end Sunwell ones that I am currently using. I.e the 3:2 macro for insane hunter dps. Tells you how to gem / enchant your gear. Also supplies cheekies spread sheet. I dont use microsoft exell so its read only for me so I can't do anything but if you have a valid working copy of exell you can compare all the hunter pro gear you want.

BEST website I have ever seen for hunters you will learn a lot.

Petopia = good for pets.

Ravagers or Wind Serpents are the highest dps pets in the game (wind serpents are best but, I already have 3 pets ***** that :P)

Edited, Jun 4th 2008 5:09pm by TerminateX

Edited, Jun 4th 2008 5:09pm by TerminateX
#32 Jun 04 2008 at 3:05 PM Rating: Good
ararelin wrote:
hm.... not sure why you attack me personally...

There is nothing personal, I just ask you to stop spreading nonsense, there are already enough huntards out there.

ararelin wrote:

This is your second post I see you be rude. Though I'm not close to even have read all of yours.

It won't be my last.

ararelin wrote:

But Serpent sting will do dps while you use other abilities. It always should be up first and maintained through the whole fight. If you got mana issues you should increase your mp5 gear or run viper aura.
And concussive shot increases the damage of your steady shot. Mouseover the ability if you didn't know that as of yet, so it is very worthwhile.

There are so many wrong things you state here it starts to hurt.
1) Gearing for MP5 is not a good idea. You can sustain a shot roation without gearing for a single point of MP5
2) Switching to Viper Aspect costs you at least 50DPS (if you don't have Improved Aspect of the Hawk specced and a lot more if you have specced for it).
3) Wasting a global cooldown to get another 175 damage on a steady shot if the mom is not imune to daze effects is a really bad idea. Just fire a steady shot, that will be at least 500dmg even in crappy gear (and a lot more in good gear).
I recommend you start reading a few FAQs. The two stickies in this forum are a good starting point. For further information there are some links referenced in the FAQ in this forum (don't look to close who has posted it, you might recognize the name, however there was noone until know who said I'd claim a lot of nonsense *giggles*).

ararelin wrote:
Not sure how you can feel to be an authority with claiming so loud such nonsense.

It is funny you know, I raid for more than 2.5 years and I have not seen a single hunter using concusive shot to improve his damage. There where some hunter who used serpent sting in their shot rotation. Two saw the error when I pointed it out to them; the third one had to leave a casual raid group since he did not manage to beat the main tank damage wise :)
But there is more to it. A lot of things about shot rotations and how to do damage are discussed on several forums (like tkasomething and EJ, you should pay a visit if you are really interested in how to DPS). I frequent those forums and I believe I know a lot about this stuff.

But you got me interested. What was you experience regarding raids and instances? Would you mind posting a WWS Log where you do you shot cycle against Dr. Bumm?
#33 Jun 05 2008 at 9:04 PM Rating: Excellent
I'd suggest a macro shot rotation you can spam as well. Great for pumping out the dps. Try this one, it's what I use and it's pretty vicious.

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/castsequence reset=120 trinket 1, trinket 2
/cast [target=pettarget,nodead,exists] Kill Command
/castsequence reset=2/target !Auto Shot, Steady Shot

Trinket 1 and 2 are for your cooldown trinkets you have equipped, obviously Smiley: tongue

For example, I currently use Core of Ar'kelos and Bloodlust Brooch and this macro, when spammed, will activate them as they become available. Now bear in mind, as you start racking up your DPS, you are going to start generating more threat. This means that you need to watch your meter very very closely because you will start to climb it fast. Using a macro for increasing your DPS is a lot better to use than trying to maintain a clickie rotation. Your reflexes generally just can't match a button spam that does that many actions at once, especially if you are like me and use 7 or 8 action bars for different things.

One thing I notice is in your spec you have imp hunters mark but nothing in efficiency. While the imp mark is great, I think you are going to burn mana faster without a specific set rotation and without the efficiency talent, which can also slow down your dps some. Also, you can try moving a few things around a little and try a slight variation on your current spec if you like. The one I use, which works for my playstyle, is this one.

While I am not the end all, be all of hunters by any means, I have had a lot of time to refine how I play and how to pull as much out of my little hunchback troll as possible, hopefully this will help you some as well.




#34 Jun 06 2008 at 8:10 AM Rating: Good
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ararelin wrote:
A lot of crap that's wrong.
Please never post here again.
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