DEEP DEEP DEEP fire mageFollow

so ive heard from multiple people that there is this silly illusion that fire mages arent effective in PvP.. i laugh at you. I made a character named firefirefire, so naturally, i thought it funny to do FULL fire. im talkin 61 points in fire. why stray from the name? i exaggerate not, when i tell you that i destroy everything, and rarely die even when ganged up on. i basically only pvp, not that i dont quest or do the occasional dungeoun, but i just enjoy annihiliating other real people, and pve usually ends up being too time consuming for my schedule. if you get a sheep off its over, even without the sheep.. even without nova, a dragons breath and blink can get u away from just about anything and setup/supply you with time to cast and rebegin the fight, and of course blast wave is always lovely, the proc'd sprint thingy (cant think of the correct terminology here) dont know how many times that and/or a combination of that and impact have saved my life. i basically just made this thread because i dont understand the perception behind some people thinkin fire isnt good pvp. in bg's im always either first or damn close to it in killing blows and HK's, and always right up at the top in damage, and usually rarely die (have become very efficient in escaping when needed), not to mention the ridiculousness of crit % you get with a fire mage, any thoughts?

sheep + pyro + fireball (if given the time, if not, several scorches) + fireblast + blastwave (at this point they should be right in front of you, if battling another caster of course your the one running at them) + slap em in the face with a drago breath + if not dead yet blink behind em (if melee class) and begin any sequence u want at this point, usually a few more scorches finishing with another fireblast = brutal death

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Edited, May 29th 2008 10:05am by Catshyttin

Edited, May 29th 2008 10:08am by Catshyttin

Furthermore, there are fire builds that are good in PvP(even decent in arenas). The fact of the matter is that frost is better.

This. I love my 12/46/3 fire mage in BGs. (It's the 10/48/3 raiding spec without Playing With Fire and instead taking Magic Attunement and Blazing Speed.) It's a hoot to play, the damage is fine, and the survivability is definitely there. It works. I have escapes, I have controls. The mage is well-made.

However, frost mages simply work better in PvP. I've died in plenty of places where I saw, "If I had chills, I could have escaped," and "If I had Ice Barrier..." or "If I had the Water Elemental..."

Dragon's Breath is handy, Blast Wave is awesome, Blazing Speed rocks. But so many Frost talents are simply handier, more awesome, and just raw, pure metal (it's what this metalhead friend of mine always says).

Cat...

1) Your name sux
2) I am amazed that you have never died to a frost mage in pvp, ever, and pvp is the only thing you do.
3) Fire mages can do lots of damage in pvp, but the thing that fire mages depend on is crits and big numbers. When you're pounding on that warrior that has 400 resilience, you don't get big crits, and he pounds you into oblivion. With frost, you have much more control over the fight and can kite the snot out of most things.
4) You are far too 1337 to be here in my presence... begone!

Once I hit 70 I went to AB with my fresh raid specced fire mage. I still did miraculously well, had tons of high crits against the enemy.

I always wished I had better defensive abilities though. While fire is great, frost is a lot better for controlling the situation and surviving.

I like the idea of fire in pvp but frost just adds tons of survivability and quick crit bursts from shatter and ice lance etc....Im currently a 3/0/58 build taking everything in frost besides the frost armor, frozen core and imp blizzard talents and putting 2 in arcane subtlety and 1 in the resistance talent in the first tier just cause there is no where else to put it.....I always hear about the 17/0/44 but u waste alot of points trying to get to imp counterspell when u could get extra frost talents.....so anyways point is that any build is viable if it works for u and the way u play