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So I haven't ran herioc MGT on my druid since like day three when it came out, as a tank it was a total nightmare for me to do and haven't done it since. I was totally unable to keep aggro on the mobs needed. I have decent tanking gear amd no real problem in other heriocs/ raids. Is there some kinda guide for druid to do that place? Seems like all the LOS pulls make it so I cant see stuff either. I am mainly a dps cat druid but nobody will take one of those to herioc MgT. I really want some of those nice drops there but the place has me scared. Any good tips/reading/addons for that place? I'm at 26k armor 15k health and 34% dodge. Seems to be a place for pali tanks. My other option is to run it as healer I have 1600 +heals and 600 regen out of combat
Run with guildies, as a healer or as a tank with 3 mages (or 2 mages and a lock) and a priest healer.
Make them dont do anything when you are los pulling untill the mobs get to you.
Keep resetting the instance until you get the right adds at third boss.
I usually go as a healer and I could roll need in some itens that dropped there.
Make them dont do anything when you are los pulling untill the mobs get to you.
Keep resetting the instance until you get the right adds at third boss.
I usually go as a healer and I could roll need in some itens that dropped there.
I think pally makes a terrible tank for hmgt to be honest, the mobs there do an insane amount of damage and you dont want to be multi tanking when you can avoid it.
There are a couple of ways to be succesful in hmgt, and all of them rely on your party members not sucking. First and easiest, if you have any combination of warlock/hunter/mage/spriest/rogue as dps, and they are GOOD at the CC side of their classes, you should have no issue. Warlock/Hunter/Mage means that at most you are dealing with 2 mobs, and at best 1 while the warlock's enslaved pet literally solos another.
The second is to have very, VERY good dps who can get the clothies down before they decimate the tank. Druids dont have any trouble tanking the mage guards or blood knights, but the warlocks and magisters decimate us.
From a tank point of view, you really want to gear up for stam over agi in this place if you have any options. As said above the melee dps in there are not the issue for druid tank - the casters are. Unless you have ideal dps you are going to be copping heavy burst damage regardless of your armor and dodge, and you need the hp to give your healer a chance to catch up.
You can probably heal hmgt with 1600 +heal and 600mp5 out of combat but if your tank isn't geared some of it will really challenge you - most notably the second boss.. you cant bug the debuff off any more so there is a tonne of burst damage to overcome, especially if the party doesnt let you recover before he starts going into arcane explosion mode.. it will decimate the party before the hots have a chance to work.. Id say stick to tanking and gear up for hp (staying crit free), and find a healer who is adequetly geared to support you.
Good luck on the trinkets, I have run hmgt at least 30 times and havent seen the tank trinket drop once -_- I have every other one of the trinkets as a feral druid, and not the commendation :(
There are a couple of ways to be succesful in hmgt, and all of them rely on your party members not sucking. First and easiest, if you have any combination of warlock/hunter/mage/spriest/rogue as dps, and they are GOOD at the CC side of their classes, you should have no issue. Warlock/Hunter/Mage means that at most you are dealing with 2 mobs, and at best 1 while the warlock's enslaved pet literally solos another.
The second is to have very, VERY good dps who can get the clothies down before they decimate the tank. Druids dont have any trouble tanking the mage guards or blood knights, but the warlocks and magisters decimate us.
From a tank point of view, you really want to gear up for stam over agi in this place if you have any options. As said above the melee dps in there are not the issue for druid tank - the casters are. Unless you have ideal dps you are going to be copping heavy burst damage regardless of your armor and dodge, and you need the hp to give your healer a chance to catch up.
You can probably heal hmgt with 1600 +heal and 600mp5 out of combat but if your tank isn't geared some of it will really challenge you - most notably the second boss.. you cant bug the debuff off any more so there is a tonne of burst damage to overcome, especially if the party doesnt let you recover before he starts going into arcane explosion mode.. it will decimate the party before the hots have a chance to work.. Id say stick to tanking and gear up for hp (staying crit free), and find a healer who is adequetly geared to support you.
Good luck on the trinkets, I have run hmgt at least 30 times and havent seen the tank trinket drop once -_- I have every other one of the trinkets as a feral druid, and not the commendation :(
I can't believe I, as an Enhancement Shaman, was able to go to H MGT. :) After hitting up regular a few times I assumed I'd never see the inside of Heroic unless group leader accidentally left it turned on. It was very fun and easy for our group. Warrior, Warlock, Mage, Tree, and Myself. We were all competent players as I never PUG so this was a guild run.
Brisin wrote:
Keep resetting the instance until you get the right adds at third boss.
You can reset Heroics? :/
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Go in the instance. Stealth up to the bridge and look over at the 4 bodygaurds. if you have a bad set up walk back out. Press reset all instances, then change it from heroic to normal, then back again. I don't know if you can just press reset all instances, but I do both anyway just to be on the safe side.
You can also soft-reset the instance by leaving for 30 min if you get stuck and absolutly can't get past the third boss. Like with Moroes in Kara, you leave for 30 min.
You don't get saved to a heroic (or raid) until a boss is downed. So you should be able to reset it by reforming the party.
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I think pally makes a terrible tank for hmgt to be honest, the mobs there do an insane amount of damage and you dont want to be multi tanking when you can avoid it.
You can't be serious. Pally tanking with little to no cc is great for this instance. However, you need good dps(preferably 2 aoe) and good heals(which means a non druid healer since hots aren't even close to enough and the big heals are generally too slow). Btw good=t5ish/2.4 badge gear. Yes you want cc for the 3rd boss, and the pally tank should heal/tank any pets, but other than that why waste time cc'ing.
Best grp composition mage/rogue/lock/resto shammy. 3 cc if you want it for the big pulls, +2.5 aoe dpsers(rogue bf only counts .5, lol).
Cool, didn't know you could do that for Heroics. Thanks for the tip!
"mahlerite" wrote:
You can't be serious. Pally tanking with little to no cc is great for this instance. However, you need good dps(preferably 2 aoe) and good heals(which means a non druid healer since hots aren't even close to enough and the big heals are generally too slow). Btw good=t5ish/2.4 badge gear. Yes you want cc for the 3rd boss, and the pally tank should heal/tank any pets, but other than that why waste time cc'ing.
1. Pally tank makes it really easy.
2. 2aoe?? u really want aoe the whole instance lol. hf with it.
3. druid healers are the best healers for this instance. arena-fight and kael require lots of movement.
4. easiest way is 2-3 CC's for the arena-fight.
Heroic MrT is, in my oponion, mostly like the other "oh crap big pull" instances (Shattered Halls and Shadow Labs) though it requires better gear.
Like was said, a good amount of stam is necessary, because of the casters that all have some nasty spells up their sleeves. Bring a healer that can dispel some of the DoTs to lighten the healing strain a bit.
Other than that, you're just going to need CC until all of you out-gear the instance I'm afraid. Sap, sheep, seduce. Kill fast so the sap doesn't add mid-fight, etc.
And don't worry if the third boss is giving you trouble - it's a semi-PvP fight and sometimes people really can't get into the right "flow" of the fight to down adds and stay alive at the same time.
Like was said, a good amount of stam is necessary, because of the casters that all have some nasty spells up their sleeves. Bring a healer that can dispel some of the DoTs to lighten the healing strain a bit.
Other than that, you're just going to need CC until all of you out-gear the instance I'm afraid. Sap, sheep, seduce. Kill fast so the sap doesn't add mid-fight, etc.
And don't worry if the third boss is giving you trouble - it's a semi-PvP fight and sometimes people really can't get into the right "flow" of the fight to down adds and stay alive at the same time.
mahlerite wrote:
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I think pally makes a terrible tank for hmgt to be honest, the mobs there do an insane amount of damage and you dont want to be multi tanking when you can avoid it.
You can't be serious. Pally tanking with little to no cc is great for this instance. However, you need good dps(preferably 2 aoe) and good heals(which means a non druid healer since hots aren't even close to enough and the big heals are generally too slow). Btw good=t5ish/2.4 badge gear. Yes you want cc for the 3rd boss, and the pally tank should heal/tank any pets, but other than that why waste time cc'ing.
Best grp composition mage/rogue/lock/resto shammy. 3 cc if you want it for the big pulls, +2.5 aoe dpsers(rogue bf only counts .5, lol).
Any tank with good t5/2.4 badge gear can tank it without cc. I'm only in high tier4 and badge loot and I can easily tank the lot with an equally geared healer, but that doesn't mean that its easy to aoe tank it without CC, it means I am now over geared for the instance. A strat revolving around having gear better than the gear you get from what you are doing isn't a strat.
For tanks that are not over geared and healers that are not over geared, the best way to handle hmgt is ample cc, and a high threat single target tank.
Edited, May 28th 2008 1:31pm by Delekii
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