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#1 May 26 2008 at 7:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Hi,

I need some advice/help. I took my normal (non-twinked) Feral Druid out to the BG (Warsong Gulch) and got spanked...to put it mildly. To be honest, I was nothing more than a large moving target for the twink Hunters and a large moving target for the twink Rogues. Do we, as Druids, have a chance to counter such things at lvl 19? At Lvl 29, I can see some theoretical improvements (cat form & prowling), but I wondered if lvl 19 was too early to be competitive. To be honest, we won three out of four battlegrounds...but it was not because of anything I did. My numbers were staggeringly bad.
Or, in this age of twinks, is this just the way it is. Or, perhaps, do I need to switch to a healer role? Thanks in advance.
#2 May 26 2008 at 9:05 PM Rating: Decent
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How much health do you have? 400? 600? The average health a level 19 twink has is above 2k. There is no counter to a hunter with +35 agi to wep, fishing hat with +100 health, and an Arena Grand Master. None.
I suggest that you skip all bgs until 70. It's not worth taking a week to get pvp gear that you'll replace in 3 levels. If you twink, which you can't on this char seeing as your already 19, then you'll stand a chance. At level 29 you do get some improvements in abilities, but you'll still die in 3 or 4 shots to a twink. I have a twink hunter friend, Level 19, who can kill non-twinked level 30s and 35s.

Take my advice and skip BGs. The gear is not worth the time and frustration.

Forgot to add this- Proof you stand no Chance:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kil%27jaeden&n=Lowlife


Edited, May 27th 2008 3:31am by Leetler
#3 May 26 2008 at 10:57 PM Rating: Decent
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It's true - especially at those lower brackets, twinks are in abundance, and basicly the only one that stands a chance against them are the other twinks.

In 10-19, a druid's best role is healing. Bearform does not provide any survivability against twinks (neither does casterform and healing but at least you're being usefull to the others that way). Against non-twinks, your DPS in bearform is too low and your survivability isn't all that either (especially casters will fry you).

#4 May 27 2008 at 4:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Though I can't talk about the 19 and 29 brackets, I don't think I'd recommend skipping ALL BGs until 70. Even if you get creamed on a regular basis, getting a head start on your honor is always a good thing. What I would recommend is not spending your honor on PvP gear until you hit 70.

I just started re-leveling my bank/chanter alt from 35. Before he got to 39, I'd quest a day, then BG for a couple of days, or basically whichever I wanted. When he got to 39, I did BGs for about a week and a half.

I just leveled him to 40 yesterday, but he's got 4200 honor and (more importantly) 40 WSG marks and 35 AB marks. I HATE WSG with a passion, especially at higher levels, so I'm very happy to have the marks needed to buy my bracers already in place.

From what I understand, 19 is about the twinkage, so you will die often, but if you want to stay there for awhile, you can get some chants on your gear. Not the high end stuff, but chanters are always offering lower level stam chants as they level up their profession. Get some of those and you might last long enough for a healer to save your furry butt.
#5 May 27 2008 at 6:32 AM Rating: Decent
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At lvl 19 druid you're also a target because defense expects you to be the best flag runner, so they'll try and take you out first.

If your team still won 3/4, consider it a success IMO. The people that show up topping the stat sheet aren't always the only reason a team won. Often times, the role player distracting defense or slowing down a flag carrier can turn the tide of a battle.

Get speed on your boots and grab some free action/sprint pots and only the rogues have a chance of catching you.

But like a poster above said, I wouldn't want to stay 19 without twink gear.
#6 May 27 2008 at 3:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Leetler wrote:
I suggest that you skip all bgs until 70.


I don't agree at all. I did that on my first toon and then I finally reached 70 and found out that PvP still sucked because I was a 70 with PvE gear that didn't know how to PvP! It's frustrating as well as embarrassing because people tend to expect a 70 to know how to play their class well. But with no experience...

As you level, PvP in your bracket and then, when you ave all the gear you care about or think you're ready to move on, then level up until you can PvP in the next bracket. Aside from the marks, the most useful thing you'll gain is the experience. And you can feel better at being bad in PvP as a low level more than you can as a high one.

There are lots of twinks and they'll kill you lots. Who cares. Win or lose you still gain at least one mark and (more importantly) enough knowledge to totally cream people at 70.

#7 May 27 2008 at 10:31 PM Rating: Decent
I have a level 32 feral druid, and I started doing BGs at level 28. There is absolutely no reason why you should skip doing BGs until level 70, I frequently do them and am consistently in the top 3 for dps, healing AND killing blows.. and my gear is pretty average when compared to most of the people out there! At level 19 it may be more difficult seeing as there are more twinks there than at level 29 and so on, so maybe just wait until you have levelled enough to hold your own in the next bracket (20-29). I enjoy BGs, and can hold my own in them, so just persevere, cause it is awesome!
#8 May 29 2008 at 12:41 PM Rating: Good
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Agree, just skip 19 but don't be afraid of BGs after that if you're at the higher end of the bracket. Ferals really shine 30-39 when no one has mounts to catch them and they can stun w pounce opener.
#9 Jun 01 2008 at 2:51 PM Rating: Decent
I agree with tuskerdu and say skip the BG until you're 28 or 29. I didn't really care for BG'ing when I was in my 20's with my druid because I couldn't do as much damage as I wanted, but now that I've got Pounce, I love them. A druid is such a flexible class that maybe I'll heal one round and dps the next.

Just remember, you're (probably) there just to have some fun!
#10 Jun 16 2008 at 10:13 AM Rating: Decent
Haha i remember being 19 and going to bg.....got pwned hardcore...by horde and alliance for not being a twink. I stopped bg-ing after 19 just because i felt like getting to 70 was more important especially since it's my first main. Don't bother if you're not a twink it's just a waste of time.
#11 Jun 16 2008 at 1:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Someone carpet-bombed this thread without stating a reason. Reverting it to the best of my abilities.

If you're going to mass-rate in a thread, please give a reason. I don't see faulty comments in the replies that suggest skipping Battlegrounds. I've leveled quite a few characters myself and I recommend skipping the Battlegrounds until you hit at least level 50 or 60. Sure, losing Battlegrounds will give you marks and some honor, but it'll also chew away on the morale and eventually you'll be sick of losing, and at 69 or 70 when the big grind begins, you'll take the first defeat very heavily because you'll think "aw man, is it going to be like this for the rest of the game." Can really kill the joy.

Trust me. That's what happened to me.

So while I don't encourage skipping level 1-69 content, I do think that low level Battlegrounds are nigh useless due to the massive amount of twinks in them. Especially as a Druid, because our class doesn't really shine in PvP until level 50 and Mangle. It's just not worth the trouble. I'd rather focus on leveling up. Battlegrounds at level 70 are much more fun for non-twinks. Smiley: wink

Oh, and for the people who scream bloody murder at me for not encouraging experience and practice, let it go. I do encourage gaining as much experience as possible about your class as well as others. Going from level 1 to 70 without experiencing player versus player combat is about as bad as going from level 1 to 70 without ever doing an instance. You'll be at a loss come end-game.

However, for PvP combat practice, I highly recommend engaging in fair fights out in the open. I'm not talking about ganking, but seeking out world PvP when possible. That means, instead of /wave when you see an enemy close to your level approach, you engage and learn what real PvP is like.

Of course, at level 19 there's not much world PvP going on, so you'll need to wave buh-bye to the 10-19 WSG bracket and go quest a bit until you reach the Stranglethorn level bracket. I'm leveling up a Druid as well and I'm actually looking forward to taking a Druid through Stranglethorn again. I haven't taken a stealther through that place since early 2006. And the last time I took a Druid through that place, I ran around stabbing stuff with a dagger while healing myself, because it was faster than using Bear/Cat form.

Yeah, it's been a while.

Edited, Jun 16th 2008 11:14pm by Mazra
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