Skill vs GearFollow

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6762839659&sid=1

Pure win.

Damn near feel like posting it on the mainboard... worse rogue ever? Quite likely.



Edited, May 26th 2008 6:17pm by Tyrandor

I know, right?

Combat > Frost? I don't mean to argue or anything, but the last time I fought a frost mage as combat it didn't go very well for me. Regardless of being able to 3 shot the mage, if you don't even get a chance to attack you're *******

You've seen much worse? How?

A little breakdown of the facts:

- The Rogue is in T6 gear with a Warglaive mainhand.
- The Mage is level 67 and has 5.5 HP.
- This is PVE server, the rogue flagged himself and initiated the battle.
- The Mage was grinding mob, hence his mana/health wasn't even full - yes, this was a (epicly so) failed gank attempt.
- The Mage won without using Ice Block, WE or Cold snap - the rogue used at least 1 Cooldown (Blind).

I'm honestly speechless as to the level of mediocrity shown here... it goes a number of time beyond anything I've ever seen in this game. And there's tons of bad people out there. This is not a fresh 70 rogue getting owned by a 67 frost mage... it's rogue wearing some of the best gear available in the game. 0_o



There's no way in hell a 67 mage should survive 1 Cloak of Shadow against the kind of gear Nyssa has.

Hell, Nyssa could most likely kill him by using his thrown weapon...


Meh, you guys are no fun.

I'm speechless that you are overwhelmed by mediocrity; I think ou meant to use another word :P

That's just it, you think it's worse because he's geared, but that's illogical. He's not any less skilled because he has gear than if he was a new 70 breaking a blind. Sure, you would expect a rogue with that level of gear to know better, but it doesn't make it more noobish.

I don't know where you got the idea the mage started out with low hp, as the log does not cover the whole fight. The rogue takes 3.5 k damage during the combat log shown, not enough to kill him. How do you know the rogue opened, anyway? regardless, I've seen worse than what I know to have been the case here.

2SS wouldn't kill him, even with white damage unless you got some solid RNG. Not if he had shields up. As evidenced by the fact that the SS that broke Blind was completely absorbed.

OK, if you want worse:

4/5 Vengeful mage (guess which parts) beaten by a 69 combat rogue in 1v1 WITH elemental and iceblock.

@ 60, beat a Naxx geared rogue who opened with an ambush that left my mage at 300 hp. All he ahd to do was touch me once after that for a kill.

Yeah, it's bad, but it's not amazingly bad. Considering he never claimed he was good it's ******* retarded to go on for 12 pages at him, tbh.

Garrote is a 3 second silence...



Edited, May 26th 2008 10:24pm by Kavekk

Now where did YOU buy your rogue? Combat swords rogues don't freaking mutilate...

Well, I hadn't got all the information when I said it was worse. Still, I think they're sufficently bad that one shouldn't be suprised.

As for pre tBC vs rogues... well, it depends on what period you mean. In any case, for two rogues to lose to a mage 2v1 is pretty horrfic.

However you put it, it comes down to a PvE rogue being kited to death by a frost mage and his water elemental. Lack of experience in PvP has little to nothing to do with sucking as a rogue in general.

This would have been a truly embarrassing thing if that rogue had been in S2+ gear, or even just active in an arena team, but like this?

You don't get CloS until 66, and I bet the vast majority of rogues only uses it in PvE to wipe existing DoTs and such, and unlike a somewhat experienced PvP rogue is not really aware of the 90% resistance you get for a few seconds.

PvE isn't a totally no skill zone, but organisation and time are the main requiremnents it's true. If you're raiding with a load of retards then you'll progress much slower in the same amount of time as a load of good players, though.

I Don't care how much he DOESNT pvp, if you cant beat a level 67 CLOTHIE in outland greens for god sake, you are either crippled or mentally retarded.

Damn you Tyr, you beat me. I was headed to the forums to post this up.