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#1 May 26 2008 at 8:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, recently i got very bored with my hunter (lvl 70 for about half a year now), and having being MM since level 10 I finally went against everything I had always said about hunters.

I tried out BM. All of my friends were shocked, as I had always bashed on the BM hunters out there, and said I would never ever switch over to BM.

And I love it, absolutely love it.

I am not even properly geared right now for the right shot rotation, I have the Telescopic sharp rifle (3.0 Speed don't know how to do the linky). But my my base DPS is the same, with the ability to put more auto shots out.

So to all my BM playing brethren allow me to apologize for not seeing the light sooner.

Also on a related note, when do you big red kitty? I am planning to instances and raids mostly, kinda burned myself out on PVP. Should I just use it like a trinket?
#2 May 26 2008 at 9:31 AM Rating: Excellent
Personally, I use BW every time it's up regardless of soloing or instancing. Of course, in a group, a lot of this depends on the pull and waiting for our Pally or Tank to have aggro before I fire it off.

In groups, I leave growl off and leave the pet on passive so, even when I do hit Bestial Wrath, the pet is less likely to grab aggro. For a good shot rotation, I use a steady shot macro and simply spam the hell out of it in groups. Try this one out and let me know how you like it:

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/castsequence reset=3 Steady Shot, !Auto Shot
/castrandom [target=pettarget, exists] Kill Command
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

When I am solo, I tend to not use my steady shot macro and I use my shots in a "modified" rotation. Solo, I am less concerned with maximizing my DPS and more concerned with maintaining aggro below my pet.
#3 May 26 2008 at 9:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the response man, I really appreciate it, just a question thought, how much does a Macro really help, the only one I use is a RS/WC macro. I really enjoy the concentration it takes to do a steady auto rotation by hand, however a do use Zhunter mod for the shot timer.
#4 May 26 2008 at 9:48 AM Rating: Decent
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A macro will help. I hand weave when I'm bored, but a macro will jump your dps noticeably. You just don't have the reaction times, especially when under haste effects.

Since you're using a slow gun anyway, the 3:2 macro will probably work out better for you than the one linked by Wordaen. Try em both out on Doc boom and see what you come up with.
#5 May 26 2008 at 9:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Cool Cool I certainly will give that a shot, unfortunately I have a Spanish Exam tomorrow (taking summer college courses so I can Graduate early) so I probably wont have a chance to today.
#6 May 26 2008 at 1:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I highly recommend using shot rotation macros. I have three different ones on my bar: 3:2, 1:1 and a 1:1 with Arcane and Multishot that I made for myself, and I only use that one on AoE fights where there is very little/no Crowd Control (Hydross, Hyjal). The third one isn't great for Mana, but it does more damage than the 3:2- especially when there are several mobs. I recommend using the guide on TKASomething to help you make a cast sequence rotation that will work for you.

As for BW, I have it set up in a macro to use at the same time as the Bloodlust Brooch, and Rapid fire (if it's up). I only have 1 point into Rapid killing, so my cooldown is 4 minutes, which syncs up better than the 3 minute cooldown with 2 points into it. I put that extra point into Imp. Hunter's mark, and I haven't found any reason to go back.

On a boss, use it as soon as your tank has enough aggro- the sooner the better. You might still have to feign once BW is done- even with Salvation- so watch your threat meter. On a trash fight, use it on the second mob you go after, so the tank is sure to have the threat.

Edited, May 26th 2008 5:32pm by ProjectMidnight
#7 May 26 2008 at 2:20 PM Rating: Decent
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ProjectMidnight wrote:
I highly recommend using shot rotation macros. I have three different ones on my bar: 3:2, 1:1 and a 1:1 with Arcane and Multishot that I made for myself, and I only use that one on AoE fights where there is very little/no Crowd Control (Hydross, Hyjal). The third one isn't great for Mana, but it does more damage than the 3:2- especially when there are several mobs
Always hand weave Multishots and/or arcane shots in your rotation as BM, it's simply more dps.
(only if those shots do considerably more dmg than steady ofcourse)

Yes, that's not as mana effecient, but as long as you're not OoM at the end of a fight, you could have done more dmg by using those abilities.
#8 May 27 2008 at 10:45 AM Rating: Decent
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I recently tried out BM for the first time as well. I leveled MM up to 60 then switched to SV where I've been since. But I was having a huge problem farming since I'd crit the aggro off my pet within 3-4 shots. Not a horrible thing, but inconvenient as I'd blow my mana savage strike/wing-clipping away.

Plus, I'd wanted to give BM a try. For some reason, I've never had a toon coming from the left handed tree (I have a druid that switches from feral to resto as needed, but never balance).

I went cookie cutter but didn't change up my gear or re-gem or anything, so I'm still heavily weighted in agility.

I must say I'm a bit disappointed so far. While it's definately harder to pull aggro off my pet, it's still a regular occurance. Though, I guess that by the time the mob is within melee range, he's also within 1-2 hits of dying.

The jury is still out and I'm not giving up yet - I'm filling in on our lower-boss Kara run this week and I'll be interested to see how I do without my trap buffs. It should be fine I know, but I've been very spoiled having my traps lasting 26 seconds with 24 second cooldown (or 22/24 or whatever the math is).
#9 May 27 2008 at 12:29 PM Rating: Good
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Aethien wrote:
ProjectMidnight wrote:
I highly recommend using shot rotation macros. I have three different ones on my bar: 3:2, 1:1 and a 1:1 with Arcane and Multishot that I made for myself, and I only use that one on AoE fights where there is very little/no Crowd Control (Hydross, Hyjal). The third one isn't great for Mana, but it does more damage than the 3:2- especially when there are several mobs
Always hand weave Multishots and/or arcane shots in your rotation as BM, it's simply more dps.
(only if those shots do considerably more dmg than steady ofcourse)

Yes, that's not as mana effecient, but as long as you're not OoM at the end of a fight, you could have done more dmg by using those abilities.
While this is true, it's also very dangerous advice. I would say stick to just steady auto until you feel comfortable with it. If you hand weave badly you will lower your dps more then if you just left it alone. Also if not using it is the difference between going into viper or staying in hawk, you'll be better off just using steady's. There's also something to be said for the simple rotation allowing you to pay more attention to new fights etc and let you avoid damage you might take if you are focusing too hard on a rotation -> which points back to, only do it when it feels completely comfortable.
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#10 May 27 2008 at 1:30 PM Rating: Decent
For trash I usually use the 3:2 Macro and I hand weave Arcane and Multi. For long boss fights I pretty much just stick to the macro. There are exceptions of course, MD, aimed, Arcane, multi combos for threat boosts.

I prefer to hand weave all my special things though. Rapid fire, drums, trinket, FD, I just feel more comfortable doing those by hand.
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