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#1 May 25 2008 at 11:18 AM Rating: Default
How can I begin to effectively solo with a priest, beginning at level 1? Any suggestions for race choices? Thanks.
#2 May 25 2008 at 1:25 PM Rating: Good
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I take it you're new to the game? Unlike a lot of other games, this game is built around leveling up without having to spend endless amounts of time looking for a group. You can quest from level 1 to 70 all by yourself, regardless of what class and race you are.

As for race choices, I'd say Night Elf for solo PvE due to the Starshards spell which makes killing a lot easier. I'd say Draenei for group PvE as their Symbol of Hope spell is simply amazing.

If your heart desires PvP, Forsaken and Blood Elf Priests are supposedly quite tough, with one being able to dispel fear effects and the other being able to silence anything in the surrounding area.

I'm a Night Elf myself and I'm quite happy with Starshards. A free, instant cast, "damage over time" spell every 30 seconds? Yes, please.

Oh, I should probably mention that being a Night Elf in PvP is also quite funny. Especially if you're guarding the bridge in Alterac Valley or the Lumbermill in Arathi Basin. Hordies go *splat*.

Edited, May 26th 2008 9:58am by Mazra
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#3 May 26 2008 at 5:11 AM Rating: Good
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Mazra's recommendations are all good, but I'd put in a word for undead as welll if you're considering Horde. Devouring Plague, the racial spell, is really wonderful, especially at lower levels (before you have some of the other tricks up your sleeve). It's my 3-minute button for either hard mobs or too many adds, and I've been able to kill red/elite mobs I wouldn't have been able to without it. And Will of the Forsaken is a great racial for PVP, so I hear.

In the end though, none of the racials trump playing what you like best. You'll be looking at this character for a long time. Do not, I repeat, do not, pick a race you don't like just because you think the racial is better.

Although you can level with any spec, you say "effectively solo" and putting equal emphasis on both words I'd endorse a Shadow spec. It's very efficient and unlike some other classes that have to wait a long time for some of their key abilities, having those first 5 points go into Spirit Tap really makes things easier right out of the gate. I despise soloing with my holy priests, but I lovelovelove soloing with my shadow priest.
#4 May 26 2008 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Uhm, teacake, how many Priests do you have? Smiley: eek
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#5 May 26 2008 at 1:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Both Mazra and Teacake offer sound suggestions. Listen to Mazra for advice on Ally priests, as I'm a Horde-devotee.

I will vouch for the fact that I, like so many others, appreciate Undead racial abilities better than any other. My first priest to 70 was a Blood Elf (rolled it on the day of TBC launch to test-drive the new race). I later decided to level an Undead to 70, mainly for the racials. WotF is very, very nice for PvP. Devouring Plague is also a very nice DPS boost, especially when combined with the Inner Focus talent that makes this very expensive spell mana-free. Cannibalize is also nice, but you will use it less as your First Aid skill is increased.

Despite the differences in racial abilities, I would still advise you to (as so many others have said in the past) to go with the race that is most aesthetically pleasing to you. The only racial for which I would now reroll a character is Undead's Will of the Forsaken, and that would only be if I wanted a PvP-only toon.

Racials simply do not factor in that much. Be different from the mainstream, if that is what you want; this is why troll priests get extra style points ;-)
#6 May 26 2008 at 3:20 PM Rating: Good
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Mazra wrote:
Uhm, teacake, how many Priests do you have? Smiley: eek


Three, at the moment. I think I've had five total. :) Mostly holy priests for static parties I've goofed off with - none have gotten anything like high level. My undead's my only solo priest (i.e. not attached to playing with family), and the only one I've started getting "serious" about leveling. She's 48 right now. So, yeah, all my advice should be taken with much salt.
#7 May 26 2008 at 9:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mazra wrote:
I'd say Draenei for group PvE as their Symbol of Hope spell is simply amazing.


My "main" is a Draenei and I definately agree that the Symbol of Hope is amazing, and it is great even while soloing. While I use it most often in group play, it has proven to be useful time and time again in solo play as well. Draenei also get a racial spell "Gift of the Naaru" which is a mana free heal over time. While not something I would jump for joy over, I will say that spell has come in mighty handy for me on occasion even if it annoyingly shifts me out of shadowform to cast it. While the other races all make very good priests, my favorite is Draenei.

Mazra covered Night Elves and Starshard (and shadowmeld) so I am going to just put in a few words about the other Alliance races. Dwarves tend to be overlooked by many players, but they still make a fine choice for priests. They have an ability called Stoneform:

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While active, grants immunity to Bleed, Poison, and Disease effects. In addition, Armor increases by 10%. Lasts 8 sec. - 3 min cooldown


While I am not much into the PvP part of the game, I think this could be quite a good thing while battling rogues or warriors. Dwarves also get a treasure tracking ability which is kind of "meh" in my opinion, but not really so bad. There is also a hidden bonus when creating a female Dwarf....the twirling pigtails while spellcasting. And they say girl Dorfs aren't cute! ;)



Human priests have increased spirit, and spirit is a nice thing to have when you're a priest. Humans also have increased reputation gain which can save quite a bit of rep grinding.

For Horde, I think teacake makes some good points. My Forsaken priest is only level 15 so she hasn't gotten the "Devouring Plague" spell, but I have heard so many great things about it. To me, when I think of a shadow priest, the first race that comes to mind is Undead, but of course that is just my personal opinion and based on my (very) limited knowledge of WoW lore...


teacake wrote:
In the end though, none of the racials trump playing what you like best. You'll be looking at this character for a long time. Do not, I repeat, do not, pick a race you don't like just because you think the racial is better.



Indeed. While many folks are very into crunching numbers and choosing this or that race/class combo, there is nothing wrong with a more relaxed point of view. There is no sense choosing a race for their bonuses if otherwise the character is going to be unappealing to you, ultimately that is going to be a character that sits on the shelf or gets deleted.

Acoe wrote:
Racials simply do not factor in that much. Be different from the mainstream, if that is what you want; this is why troll priests get extra style points


Trolls have, IMHO, the best hair styles and dances. Their hidden racial is plus 10 to cool.

Well, I believe I have rambled on enough. It's rather late here at the moment so I will use exhaustion as an excuse for my long and overly chatty post. Have fun, and good luck with your priest. Remember, any class can solo and priests are quite good at both damage dealing and healing.

*edit for late night forgetfulness*

This list of spells is taken from the official WoW site, but I think the information regarding getting them from quests is outdated. I did not learn any of my Draenei specific spells via quest, but directly from a trainer. Anyways...the list:

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Race Specific Spells
There are some spells available only to certain races by completing quests:

* Desperate Prayer (Level 10). (Dwarf/Human only.)
* Starshards (Level 10). (Night Elf only.)
* Touch of Weakness (Level 10). (Undead only.)
* Hex of Weakness (Level 10). (Troll only.)
* Symbol of Hope (Draenei only.)
* Chastise (Level 20) (Dwarf and Draenei priests only.)
* Feedback (Level 20). (Human only.)
* Elune's Grace (Level 20). (Night Elf only.)
* Devouring Plague (Level 20). (Undead only.)
* Shadowguard (Level 20). (Troll only.)
* Consume Magic (Level 20) (Blood Elf only)


http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/spells.html

If I remember correctly, "Touch of Weakness" is also available to Blood Elves as well as Undead, but I haven't logged onto my Blood Elf priest in quite some time.








Edited, May 27th 2008 2:06am by Miskreant
#8 May 27 2008 at 3:36 AM Rating: Good
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Miskreant wrote:
My Forsaken priest is only level 15 so


Come to the dark side. ;) I play Alliance mainly - my priest is the only Horde character I've been able to take over 20. But, come on, you get to live in a whole city full of Stitches! That is a hard thing to resist, right there.


Miskreant wrote:
Trolls have, IMHO, the best hair styles and dances. Their hidden racial is plus 10 to cool.


I'm not sure I can sit idly by while you give people this kind of advice. Have you lost your mind? Better than peanut butter jelly time? BETTER than MC HAMMER?


Edited, May 27th 2008 7:43am by teacake
#9 May 27 2008 at 3:51 AM Rating: Decent
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What do you guys think of Dwarf Priests? I like Desperate Prayer and Stoneform but haven't found Chastise as useful as I thought I would (although I haven't PVP'd much yet).
#10 May 27 2008 at 6:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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ZalenSunstrider wrote:
What do you guys think of Dwarf Priests? I like Desperate Prayer and Stoneform but haven't found Chastise as useful as I thought I would (although I haven't PVP'd much yet).


Draenei get Chastise as well, although it isn't a spell I have used very much. I found it somewhat useful as a crowd control spell in situations where Psychic Scream would have been a very bad idea. Those situations were in dungeons however, where I was healing anyway so thusly not in shadow form. I don't know if I would bother shifting out of shadowform just to cast Chastise otherwise...it might be situationally useful, I suppose. I can't comment on it's effectiveness in PvP. I seem to remember reading the spell was changed slightly in one of the recent patches also.

Again, I think the thing to take from this is racials shouldn't be a game making or breaking deal. Not all of them are going to be useful all the time (or even some of the time). I think the main thing is what do YOU think of your dwarf priest? Are you enjoying the dwarf? What do you want to accomplish in the game with your priest?

To be perfectly honest, I chose Draenei over the other choices to level to 70 not because of any racials at all but merely because I wanted to experience having a character with horns and hooves and Taurens can't be priests...although I think a warstomping priest would be awesome.

Any priest race can be a good healer, any race can be good in PvP, any race can do well melting faces. I think player skill, gear and talents are of higher importance than racials. It bears repeating that you need to like your character, choosing a Dwarf for their racials is fine...if you like playing a dwarf. Personally, I like all the races in the game,(to varying degrees) but I know different folks flat out dislike one or more of the races for various reasons.

teacake wrote:

Come to the dark side. ;) I play Alliance mainly - my priest is the only Horde character I've been able to take over 20. But, come on, you get to live in a whole city full of Stitches! That is a hard thing to resist, right there.


Heh heh...do you know how many times I have plummeted to an untimely demise in the elevators in UC??? Well, it was only once but I swear I heard one of those demented, ghoulish, giant Pillsbury doughboy guards laughing at me. *sob* I like both factions but the problem I face when leveling a Horde character is that I am on my own. While I often enjoy questing and roaming around by myself I don't think I could go 1 -70 either solo or with the random pug.



teacake wrote:

I'm not sure I can sit idly by while you give people this kind of advice. Have you lost your mind? Better than peanut butter jelly time? BETTER than MC HAMMER?



I stand by my original statement. Those other dances are cool, but frankly if they aren't rocking with the cool hair then they just aren't up to par with Trolls, mon. The only other race with both the cool hair and dance is Undead.


*edited for teh screenie*

Can peanut butter jelly time beat this??? :P

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kathycf/WoW/picture017.jpg


Edited, May 27th 2008 10:43am by Miskreant
#11 May 27 2008 at 8:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Miskreant wrote:

Can peanut butter jelly time beat this??? :P


Why yes, yes it can.
#12 May 28 2008 at 4:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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While I give kudos for Oxhorn, I stand by my Troll guy. Oye, wasn't there some country and western song about standing by one's man? Eush. :D
#13 May 28 2008 at 5:42 PM Rating: Good
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Oye, wasn't there some country and western song about standing by one's man? Eush. :D

<grabs guitar>
<Sing> Staaand by your main. </sing>

Sorry. Had to. Couldn't be helped.
#14 May 28 2008 at 6:34 PM Rating: Good
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Fraeky wrote:
<grabs guitar>
<Sing> Staaand by your main. </sing>


Awww, now I'm in my Blues Brothers happy place. Group hug.
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