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#1 May 23 2008 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
just double checking if im aoe grinding right, i thought id be able to take on more mobs than i do


what i do is usually open up with seal of light, and then switch to wisdom, use a consc, with ret aura up and then switch off between light and wisdom as needed with a holy shield or 2 thrown in during the fight as mana permits while constnatly using consec.

is that right? because mobs several lvls lower i can usually take about 4 or 5 or so. around my lvl i can usualy only take about 3. I usually have kings up
#2 May 23 2008 at 11:48 AM Rating: Good
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What level are you? Generally you stop using Consecration (phase it out gradually) after you get Holy Shield. If you're in Outland, you probably shouldn't be Consecrating much at all unless you're taking BIG pulls.
#3 May 23 2008 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
Well when I did it, i spammed holy shield everytime it was up, and only did consen. every now and then. I also did not have kings, I used the other blessing, blessing of sanctuary. Sometimes I would use blessing of wisdom. But even then I would only be able to take 4 mobs sometimes 5 mobs my lvl. Of course all melee mobs...Casters will eat you, and there is nothing you can do about it.
#4 May 24 2008 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
lvl 55 right now not quite in outlands

hmm really i thought consec was the corner stone of this.. is salvation or kings better?
#5 May 24 2008 at 11:21 AM Rating: Decent
salvation? kings doesnt really add anything to aoe grinding...wisdom or sanctuary.
#6 May 25 2008 at 11:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Use sanctuary since you do not need more HP from kings, losing the least amount per hit will keep you up longer. Dont use avengers shield, you will take a ton of damage while you do it since you cant block while casting. You can go on forever if you dont use consecration, but i generally gather up 8-10 or so and spam consecration, HS and use seal and judgment of light. Burn them down as fast as possible and just drink afterwards. Found it went faster than trying to just never stop.
#7 May 25 2008 at 11:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Sorry forgot to say in the last one. Dont be afraid to barrier and bandage up mid fight if you need to, thats why its there=) (Bandage, dont heal, burn too much mana)
#8 May 25 2008 at 5:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I only judge wisdom, if i need the little health i would get from JoL then I'm in serious trouble. Basically you want to pull as many as you think you can handle, pick one and judge wisdom on it then use seal of wisdom so you have a pretty good chance of getting mana back every swing. Using BoSanc and Ret aura drop a consecrate to tag everything then if mana is an issue or you think you'll need to heal use a downranked consecrate and keep HS up. If you're getting really low on health, simply BoP or Divine Shield and bandage or if you have plenty of mana cast holy lightx2.

As to phasing out consecrate, I guess its a waste for anything less than 4 mobs once you hit decent lvl 70 gear, but anything more than that consecrate every time the cooldown is available. Obviously HS is better dam per mana but takes forever for a grp of mobs to kill themselves on it. I prefer to just burn em all down and drink for 20sec after the pull rather than have the pull take 2-3min longer.

Also want to stack a little Block value and block rating as well as keeping spell dam as high as you can. Often aoe grinding is done on lower lvl mobs so at lvl 70 i run with about 470def rating as lvl 68s still can't crit you at that def rating.
If you want to kill grps faster use your spell dam trinket cooldowns with your wings at the start. Shield spike also helps.
#9 May 27 2008 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
Make sure you have the ardent defender talent and juggle SoW and SoL to stay as close to 35% health as you can. If you're on a pvp server watch out for gankers but you should always be at or less than 35% if not grab more mobs.

Use a downranked consecrate if you have the mana and BoW or BoSc, find the combo that works for you and you can easily handle ten or more mobs a couple levels lower than you.

#10 May 27 2008 at 11:16 PM Rating: Decent
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I switched to AoE grinding about 10 lvls ago (now i'm 60). I can easily take on 5-6 mobs my own level. 8-9 if they are a few levels lower. This is how i do it:

1. Gear up: gear of your own level with as much +stam/armor as possible. +spell dmg and defense are nice extra's.

2. spec right: exact talents are debatable but prot is the way to go

3. Ret aura
4. Imp Righteous Fury (6% dmg red)
5. Blessing of sactuary (this is a must)
6. Seal of Light
6. Mount, ride around and gather melee mobs.
7. judge seal of light
8. seal of light again
9. Holy shield (keep this up ALWAYS as long as you have 2 or more mobs)
10. Consecrate a few times
11. Switch to next mob (judge SoL) when first mob dies.
12. if health is ok, then put up Seal of wisdom
13. Conescrate if mana allows it.
14. judge wisdom on next mob
15. put op SoL / SoW
16 judge
17. ...

when things ge bad: bubble, heal heal, start again.

at first i underestimated the SoL and the judgement also but combined they have a good enough effect to keep you alive. Be easy on your mana (or you have to have only a few mobs on you, then you can burn yourself through). Make sure HS is up, don't be consecrating all the time if you have many mobs. Then you won't have mana to heal or put up your seal or HS.

just my 2c but it works for me ;-)


edit: and don't forget shield spikes!

Edited, May 29th 2008 9:35pm by Aesonus
#11 May 28 2008 at 12:12 AM Rating: Decent
You dont have to waste mana on heals or bubbles tbh, just get the tanking trinket from SH - everytime I aoe grind at bt I use, consecration when its rdy - keeping SoW up - using holy shield when rdy and thats its I think. When I'm on ~30%hp I use the trinket from SH and it useally bring me on full health cuz you'll block like a maniac (hope its spelled correct :P ).

and dont forget to buff yourself with BoSanc and righteous fury (not sure if spelled correct) cuz that'ss reduce your taken dmg by alot ;)
#12 May 28 2008 at 9:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah that SH trinket will double your max pull amount. I pulled 46 zaxxis raiders at the Heap south of Area 52 the other day(I think that's all of em in the entire area). Just run around and drop rank 1 consecrate to keep em from running away, takes about 6-7min to round em all up, but its worth it to loot for 90sec after they're all dead:)
#13 May 28 2008 at 2:04 PM Rating: Decent
jsut dinged 33 on my pally and have bn aoeing since lvl 30.

i love it, i can take about 7 mobs atm of the same lvl or 1-2 higher.

i use BoSa, seal of light and judge it and ret aura.

i only use conc maybe once per pull jsut to start off with a nice bit of dmg.

sometimes i get a bit cocky: i was in hillsbrad and pulled 6 yetis, then jumped down a ramp they ran round and pulled another 5 xD i managed to take them all with the help of a bubble.

im alays trying more mobs to see what my limit is, im still perfecting my technique and hope to get there very soon.

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