Hi,
I'm trying to decide on what class to play right now. I'm torn between warrior & rogue - I'm looking for a melee character that can hold their own and dish out the pain.
I like the look of both Warrior & Rogue, they are both melee classes, both appear to have dps spec (or be entirely? dps).. but to be honest I'm not sure which would be better suited to me & my gameplay/style. some points:
- I'd say I'm a casual gamer, like to log on for 1-2 hours a day max to play, due to work I usually don't have more time than that anyways. i like to be able to log on, do a quest, farm/grind a bit, etc.
- I'm also looking to be able to play PvE solo. I'm not in any guild, and with my hectic and sometimes crazy work-schedule I can't ever say when I'll be on so likelihood of a guild is slim... so I'd need a character than I can solo with and not have too much problems with- solo as in grab a quest or spot a mob and tackle it without worrying about parties, grouping or that it will be too hard because of the class I play
- making money isn't really that much of a problem, i have played other MMO's and know about AH's and using them to make money.. so I do have a bank alt... but i also don't have that much gold, so I'm not going to be mass leveling professions or anything like that.. LOL
- I'm probably not going to end up raiding, once again due to my work.. so I'm not really taking that into consideration, although one never knows what will happen in the future.
- PvP I will prolly try a bit of.. although probably won't be great at.. but a character that can be casual and still do ok in pvp will be nice
- I mentioned solo'ing before.. i just want a class that can do close to all solo quest's and even do group quest's solo when larger. i want to be able to quest and grind and not think "omg, I must get a group to compete!"
- Ranged is not an option.. so please no suggestions of Hunter... and yes, I realize Hunter would prolly be a lot easier than either rogue or warrior.... it's basically send pet in and autoshoot right? :P But anyways, I'm not looking for a ranged class.. so mage, hunter, lock, etc are out of the question.
- shaman is also out..it looks like it could probably solo well, but looks to be more of a buff/group orientated? class... and it looks like a luck/chance based dps looking at it's windfury ability. (as well as race limiting)
- One aspect of warrior puts me off - tanking. TBO, I find it boring to deal no damage and focus trying to keep everything focused on me. Same reason I don't play healer's.. I suck at em. Oh, and i also have fairly bad hand-eye co-ordination and timing skills, so anything that might rely on a timer/reaction-time.. and chances are I'll have problems with it.
- I like the thought of wielding a big sword or axe and crushing enemies with it. warrior's get that, rogues get to duel-wield.. which is also cool.
- how dependent on stealths is rogue? that's one aspect which doesn't appeal to me about rogues.. I'm more of a in-your-face kinda person and stealth just never works for me.. LOL
- I suck at games.. lol (and here comes the play a hunter comments? LOL) and don't want anything that will be press a when c happens, then press vhy and then wyf when s happens.. (did that make sense? LOL). I can follow skill order's and such.. thats no hassle really. ie use finisher move when have points from opener moves for rogue (or however that works.. LOL) or use 1 warrior skill followed by another.. like cleave then WW? or whatever combo like that works.. LOL..
At the moment I'm not looking for anything complicated, I just want to be able to sit down, quest, kill critters and have fun. and yes, i know "Try the classes till you decide what you want".. just thought I'd ask for people's opinion's about differences between rogue and warrior for someone like me. (casual, sucky at games but willing to learn and improve, but also not wanting a stiff-as-hell learning curve... LOL)
(and before anyone says anything, this is just a trial/temp character)
(ps, sorry if this type of discussion has been posted, I've read both Warrior and rogue forums, didn't really see anything covering this...)
(pps. sorry about posting in both warrior and rogue forus, not sure if ppl who read the one also read the other, and trying to cover all bases)
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i will try and offer some advice, having played most classes. if you don't like stealth, probably don't roll a rogue. you have to be stealthed for opening moves, which contribute a lot of your damage. and the class is generally about being sneaky, backstabbing, pickpocketing, etc. doesn't sound like a good fit for you.
in your face playstyle + soloing ability + swinging big weapon + no raiding plans + PVP viability...i actually think a retribution pally is a good choice. you can heal yourself as well, which means less downtime. ret is all about big, slow 2H weapons.
other possibilities would be an enchancement shammy or warrior. windfury is an amazing damage ability and pumps out some serious hurt. you can choose big 2h weapons or dual wield, just like a warrior. shammy can solo just fine and you can heal yourself.
warrior is good, but VERY gear dependent so you might have problems, especially if you're not running group instances for the latest gear. also no heals, so more downtime eating, bandaging, etc.
keep in mind that whatever class you play, you don't get a true taste of it until at least level 30 or so (which is past the trial limit). for professions, just take herbalism (or mining) & skinning and sell everything.
in your face playstyle + soloing ability + swinging big weapon + no raiding plans + PVP viability...i actually think a retribution pally is a good choice. you can heal yourself as well, which means less downtime. ret is all about big, slow 2H weapons.
other possibilities would be an enchancement shammy or warrior. windfury is an amazing damage ability and pumps out some serious hurt. you can choose big 2h weapons or dual wield, just like a warrior. shammy can solo just fine and you can heal yourself.
warrior is good, but VERY gear dependent so you might have problems, especially if you're not running group instances for the latest gear. also no heals, so more downtime eating, bandaging, etc.
keep in mind that whatever class you play, you don't get a true taste of it until at least level 30 or so (which is past the trial limit). for professions, just take herbalism (or mining) & skinning and sell everything.
my warrior was the first toon i ever leveled to 70, and it wasn't fun playing him until i got to about pre-kara gear levels. however, others have posted having lots of fun taking their warriors through the lower levels.
my pally is now level 14 and so far i am loving it. judging seal of the crusader and then keeping seal of righteousness up, HoJ, bubbles, heals, all of this by level 14 is crazy! my downtime is basically nothing.
i leveled a shammy to 37 and it was a real grind for me to get him there. i've heard it gets tons better with dual wield at level 40.
my pally is now level 14 and so far i am loving it. judging seal of the crusader and then keeping seal of righteousness up, HoJ, bubbles, heals, all of this by level 14 is crazy! my downtime is basically nothing.
i leveled a shammy to 37 and it was a real grind for me to get him there. i've heard it gets tons better with dual wield at level 40.
Quite seriously, if you want the most kick-*** melee dpser, and have a fun time levelling your toon ... roll a rogue. As mentioned earlier, leveling a warrior can be, and generally is, quite tough.
Rogues and Warriors pretty much compete on the same ground when it comes to melee DPS ... and they both perform very well ... the difference is that a warrior only really starts to shine here (and I'm talking DW Fury for all out DPS) at around level 60-62, more specifically once you hit outland and the gear becomes better suited to the role.
Rogues will start to get gear for this specific function very early on, and if that isn't bad enough, you can start talenting for one of the most important stats almost from the very beginning, that being hit. Even then, rogues can talent for 5% hit, warriors, only for 3%.
Another big difference is the ability for a rogue to start handing out a whuppen from the beginning, due to a full energy bar ... as a warrior, you need to build up rage first before you can use your specials.
Not massive differences, but differences nevertheless. I just find that the rogue appears to be better in every aspect of dealing melee damage, so for me at least, I would roll a rogue.
ofc, the biggest advantage a rogue has is it's ability to avoid / get out of sticky situations .. something a warrior is lacking in glaring quantities (blind, vanish, feint(in groups), sprint, gouge, etc, etc)
A bit of clarity here ... I have a 70 warrior ... and I have a 40 rogue ... and this is how I see the comparison between the 2 classes. My rogue is scything through the quests like a hot knife through butter - far easier than my warrior ever did.
Rogues and Warriors pretty much compete on the same ground when it comes to melee DPS ... and they both perform very well ... the difference is that a warrior only really starts to shine here (and I'm talking DW Fury for all out DPS) at around level 60-62, more specifically once you hit outland and the gear becomes better suited to the role.
Rogues will start to get gear for this specific function very early on, and if that isn't bad enough, you can start talenting for one of the most important stats almost from the very beginning, that being hit. Even then, rogues can talent for 5% hit, warriors, only for 3%.
Another big difference is the ability for a rogue to start handing out a whuppen from the beginning, due to a full energy bar ... as a warrior, you need to build up rage first before you can use your specials.
Not massive differences, but differences nevertheless. I just find that the rogue appears to be better in every aspect of dealing melee damage, so for me at least, I would roll a rogue.
ofc, the biggest advantage a rogue has is it's ability to avoid / get out of sticky situations .. something a warrior is lacking in glaring quantities (blind, vanish, feint(in groups), sprint, gouge, etc, etc)
A bit of clarity here ... I have a 70 warrior ... and I have a 40 rogue ... and this is how I see the comparison between the 2 classes. My rogue is scything through the quests like a hot knife through butter - far easier than my warrior ever did.
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