Possible Leaked WotLK Alpha TalentsFollow

I'll find out. That's because I got a "Get into Beta Free" card at Blizzcon last year.

One of the reasons I reserve judgment on "OP" and heap scorn on those who say it is that the game has not been released and specs for every class have not been released. Yet the people who say "OP" pretend to have some super-sentient power and enough foreknowledge that would make them gods of WoW! Why don't they use their super-powers for good (and the American way) instead of posting stupidities on these forums?

Overall I can't say I'm as hyped up about this new stuff as some of the others I've heard from. Maybe that's just the mages though, heh.

Shadowflame and haunt are fairly impressive. It would definately be nice to have some damage options other than dots that don't get spell pushbacked/silenced.

I can live with the fel armor nerf. At least the new demon armor will fend off the assist trains in arenas if only for two seconds.

The talents on the other hand ...ick. Attrocity is extremely situational, easily replaced by dot-tab-dot in my opinion. Metamorphasis and decimate look powerful on the surface but the cooldowns make me wary. I was really hoping to see some abilities that appeal to the war of counters and mobility like what frost mages and shadow priests got.

My overall assesment of the specs,

Affliction: Better off I suppose, better survivability with 11 points in demo at least, still low damage though.

Demonology: Completely butchered. Frankly lacks a purpose now. I don't see going past 17 points in it. Why is blizzard adding imp and succubus talents in the 8th and 9th tier where the felguard is? It was bad enough that we put 20+ points in buffing our pet just to kill it off with demonic sacrifice, now 50+?

Destruction: With improved shadowbolt nerfed and the new talents requiring us to mix it up with fire and shadow spells (demonic sacrifice is one element or the other) I don't see destro damage looking any better than it does now.

As a PvP'er I would probably run with something like 43/17/11. A full dot rotation plus shadowflame, haunt and shadowburn just might be enough damage to pressure healers in conjunction with warrior/rogue ms effects.

Regarding level 100 - you'd get 91 talent points. You wouldn't be able to get two 51-point talents. Is that what was meant by your statement? You'd need 102 talent points to get two high-end talents.

Edited, May 29th 2008 5:30am by ohmikeghod

here,

http://wotlk.wikidot.com/spells-talents-professions

go drool, my personal favorite is atrocity and demon forms shadowbolt volley.

this site also has the rest of the changes from the Alpha stage.

few nice vids there aswell

yeh i saw that, and im not a fan of cripple. The only thing i do like about it, is that it is spammable.

by pacify does that mean thye cannot attack? like when you get dusted by the teromoths in terrokar

yes they are all real, they are from the WOTLK alpha

My take on this is that we won't really know whether the talents are PvE oriented until we know a bit more on the skills and abilities of the mobs/bosses. It could be that a talent that superficialy looks to be PvP-only could turn out to be something that will end up being a wipe preventer when we start going into WotLK instances.

I think that Blizzard precisely saw that demonologists only use felguards now and decided to buff other pets in order to get some variety into the Demonologist's playstyle.

And about Demon Form. that model they use is a Varimathras-like Dreadlord, but I think they should change it for a demonhunter-type demon like Leotheras or Atiesh or the Cleaner, it would feel more right than that Dreadlord. And for those who say it has plate armor, I'd say maybe mail or leather-mail. Because, come on. Druid Dire Bear is supposed to match plate, it has a 400% armor increase from leather armor. Here we have a 360% armor increase from CLOTH armor. So be aware of that.
But still a good panic button in both PvE and PvP, and it apparently gives the Demonologist a way to do what he is normally incapable of doing: fighting WITHOUT his pet.

obviously the demon form will have powerful abilities. seeing as it doesn't last long and has a CD it'll obviously have powerful attacks / CCs or something along those lines

It's kinda funny that were getting a demon form i remember talking about this to a freind before this was annoucned "dude wouldent it be sweeet to have like a dreadlord transformation or something"


Oh yeah and why is soul link getting nerfed it use to give 5% extra damage to the caster and the pet?

Edited, Jun 13th 2008 5:44pm by Ritster

also because it has been moved alot lower in the talent tree (11 pointer compared to 31) so making it alot more available for other spec types... basically it'd be to OP to give what it used to at its new position.

Isn't that just Illidan in the picture?

You know why I think these are fake? Demonic Pact increases Spirit by 5%, when it has already been lowered by nearly all Demo locks through Demonic Embrace by 5%...

I REALLY hope the Demon Form isn't real. Why? Because it is essentially an ability that wastes all the previous points spent in the tree. All other "forms" gained from talents still USE talents from the tree, even if they do restrict the spell choices.

Great, so you could become a demon for 45 seconds (and fully healing the Warlock for that time? That seems cruel considering they already have huge Health pools). Too bad you just lost all of your great buffs. Oh, did you Sac your pet first? Good job! Now you have a buff! Oh wait, the 45 seconds are up, you are back to the low-health clothy form and you are petless...

Too bad that Rogue had vanished and avoided you while in Demon Form...

But, in arena terms, you are still dead. It's like a Pally bubble with many different pointy objects, all of which turn on you in the end.

If it used the demo talents, it wouldn't be annoying to me (besides the fact that I think of the Demo tree as the pet tree.)

If it breaks CC, like the Druid forms, I may submit. But, I REALLY hope it isn't just an Illidan form.

I wanna turn into an Eredar if anything. Original Warlocks and all...