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#1 May 20 2008 at 9:38 PM Rating: Decent
Just curious, what do you guys use for your melee wpn?

I use dual swords...but am thinking to switch to two handed swords..
#2 May 20 2008 at 9:57 PM Rating: Good
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Emerald Ripper+Big Bad Wolf's paw
#3 May 20 2008 at 11:37 PM Rating: Decent
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=28729;source=live

and

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=34616;source=live

With 20 agi on both. Gemmed with 4hit 4 agi.
#4 May 20 2008 at 11:38 PM Rating: Decent
the 150 badge axe, best PvE weapon until you get to sunwell.
#5 May 21 2008 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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And it looks sick!
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#6 May 21 2008 at 8:03 AM Rating: Good
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It's not that good imo, and I dont really like its looks either :P
#7 May 21 2008 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
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looks aside, unless you're capped on haste it's one of the best pre-sunwell item you'll get. It's a significant upgrade over the S3 Axe. I'm not sure about the polearm or whatever in BT.

Not for SV or course, really too bad.

Edited, May 21st 2008 12:16pm by Xsarus
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#8 May 21 2008 at 8:50 AM Rating: Decent
Speaking of Badges weapons...I'm currently torn between the 150 badge axe or the Vanir's Right and Left Fists of Brutality to replace my Gorehowl.
Now, granted, rarely any hunters use fist weapons, but with the +agi enchants I'll get 63 agi, 44 haste, 88 AP, and 21 hit rating for me to resocket my hit gems...

The axe is really nice, but doesn't give me much agi (only 35 if enchanted)...I will get is 9 more haste rating, AP, and maybe crit (not sure how much 55 crit rating is to 63 agi, more i suppose, but don't know exact number).

I really need some feedback :\
this is my toon btw: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Tanaris&n=Rheagal

thanks a bunch

Edited, May 21st 2008 11:57am by jaycii
#9 May 21 2008 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
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Anything is better then Gorehowl. Even the crystalforged waraxe is better.

I recommend getting cheeky's spreadsheet and plugging the weapons in.

Edited, May 21st 2008 12:14pm by Xsarus
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#10 May 21 2008 at 9:20 AM Rating: Decent
hmm about cheeky's spreadsheet, I tried using that but everything is password protected, and i don't see anything on the thread to "unlock" it :\

i am very noob with those stuff >_<.........

Edited, May 21st 2008 12:23pm by jaycii
#11 May 21 2008 at 9:24 AM Rating: Good
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The spreadsheet says that the fists are close but not quite as good as the Axe. It's close though, so if you're not min/maxing (ie: not in sunwell) you'll be fine with either. They do match the dead parrot. Smiley: laugh It's the same cost either way.

The harbringer Axe is much better then the desolation from naj.

I have no password protection issues, so I have no idea.

Edited, May 21st 2008 12:25pm by Xsarus
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#12 May 21 2008 at 10:08 AM Rating: Decent
ahh thanks so much for your input :)
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If I may be so bold to break in into your topic. I was meaning to ask a similar question, but for a pvp melee weapon.

I am leaning towards this one Gladiator's Decapitator
Would this be a good choice?

I also seen some hunters use the polearm, don't really understand why, perhaps someone can explain that to me?

Edited, May 21st 2008 9:26pm by Deaver
#14 May 21 2008 at 12:53 PM Rating: Default
To the OP, generally hunters want 2h weapons because as a ranged character, 2h weapons with high damage and slow speed give us good burst damage. If you pull aggro off your pet and the mob comes for you, a nice big hit would be better than one weak shot and perhaps a miss with the offhand.

Most of the time, and don't hold me to this, you are going to find that 2h weapons will give you better stats than two one handed weapons combined will.

Hope that helps.
#15 May 21 2008 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
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Deaver wrote:
If I may be so bold to break in into your topic. I was meaning to ask a similar question, but for a pvp melee weapon.

I am leaning towards this one Gladiator's Decapitator
Would this be a good choice?

I also seen some hunters use the polearm, don't really understand why, perhaps someone can explain that to me?
Get the S3 axe if you're going to get one as it's quite cheap and has no rating requirement. (not sure about S4, might want to wait) Regardless the badge axe is better.

One benefit of using the vanir is that you could pop a mana oil on each of them.

Since this is a weapon thread:

One very good strat with any boss where there are phases where you do less dps is to get two weapons with a bunch of int, put int enchants on them, and have mana oils up. You swap these weapons in with viper and your mana regen will go up like crazy. Then swap the dps weapon in for the dps parts.

This is really not necessary, get yourself a seal of wisdom on the boss or a shadow priest and it's really hard to run out of mana.

Edited, May 21st 2008 5:07pm by Xsarus
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#16 May 21 2008 at 3:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
This is really not necessary, get yourself a seal of wisdom on the boss or a shadow priest and it's really hard to run out of mana.
Which is the equivalent of saying "Design the perfect raid group and you can have every advantage possible." But not too many Hunters have a Spriest and a Ret Paladin on tap during every raid.
#17 May 21 2008 at 8:34 PM Rating: Decent
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you don't need a spriest. And a prot or ret paladin will suffice. In a 25 man? Yeah, that's pretty common. And you can count on it. My usual group would be 3xhunter feral druid shaman, although sometimes it's just 4 hunters and the druid. We almost always have at least one prot or ret pally in the raid, for the rare occasions we don't a holy pally can still put seal of wisdom up, it just won't be up quite as much.

for 10 mans who cares.

Edited, May 21st 2008 11:40pm by Xsarus
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#18 May 21 2008 at 11:34 PM Rating: Decent
mjagiel wrote:
To the OP, generally hunters want 2h weapons because as a ranged character, 2h weapons with high damage and slow speed give us good burst damage. If you pull aggro off your pet and the mob comes for you, a nice big hit would be better than one weak shot and perhaps a miss with the offhand.

Most of the time, and don't hold me to this, you are going to find that 2h weapons will give you better stats than two one handed weapons combined will.

Hope that helps..


hmm...yeah i was leaning towards this opinion too..if one of my swords miss, i end up with a weak "half-hit" on the mob only..

On the other hand, it the 2h weapon misses, you get end up dealing no damage at all...
#19 May 22 2008 at 12:04 AM Rating: Good
No more 2H S4 axe for hunters.We can have the 1H S4 axe but not the 2H when S4 is out.
Thats because of 2 reasons:

1=whine whine whine by all melee class when S3 was out.Who didnt like the idea that all the hunters had the 2H axe. And for them was an outopia.

2=all the good hunters in arena now are MM who used dual because of the 30 intel enchant in both weapons.

So we will stick in our s3 2H hand axe.Imo still good enough
#20 May 22 2008 at 12:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Currently, I'm using the S3 axe with +35 agi on it. If I can ever get time to run Heroic MgT a million times, I'm trying to get 2x breeching comet- or at least a Breeching comet and Netherbane, but dual wielding Breeching comet would be hawt.

I really like having the 2h axe for grinding and PvP for big raptor strikes, and never-miss wing clips. But for raiding, dual wielding the right weapons is so much better because of the mana oil. Hell, even the stats of having 2 breeching comets is arguably better than the S3 axe- according to cheeky, it's slightly better unbuffed, and a lot better when I'm buffed.

spectrechan wrote:

hmm...yeah i was leaning towards this opinion too..if one of my swords miss, i end up with a weak "half-hit" on the mob only..

On the other hand, it the 2h weapon misses, you get end up dealing no damage at all...


This is what hit rating is for! Think about the types of mobs that you actually have to use melee attacks on: Grinding, and PvP. To never miss a level 70 with a 2h axe, all you need is 80 hit, which is more than easy to get- and even if you only have 80 hit, you'll miss level 71 mobs .5% of the time, and level 72 mobs 1% of the time.

But with dual wielding, you need a TON of hit to never miss. In fact, with 80 hit and dual wields, you still have a 19% chance of missing a level 70 mob- which is pretty significant- especially when you're trying to get a wing clip off in PvP.

Edited, May 22nd 2008 4:20am by ProjectMidnight
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#22 May 23 2008 at 1:38 PM Rating: Good
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especially when you're trying to get a wing clip off in PvP.

Weapon skills are automatically considered maxed out in PvP. I learned this going into WSG with a 1-skill crossbow.
#23 May 24 2008 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Weapon skills are automatically considered maxed out in PvP. I learned this going into WSG with a 1-skill crossbow.


Hit rating not skill.
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mjagiel wrote:
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Weapon skills are automatically considered maxed out in PvP. I learned this going into WSG with a 1-skill crossbow.


Hit rating not skill.
no, not hit rating but skill.
#25 May 24 2008 at 8:42 AM Rating: Decent
Midnight was talking about needing 80 hit rating, where did the skill come into discussion?
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I just responded to your post ;)

As for the hitrating thing, Wingclip is a special it doesnt matter if you use a 2hander or dual wield it requires the same amount of hit.
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