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Is a Paladin good for soloing?
I believe that after the pet classes we would be next on survivability and soloing. This can come at the cost of dps though depending on what your fighting and what tree you talent into.
Your wont be killing mobs quite as quickly as that pesky rogue or crit chicken mage but you will find that mob/s beating on you wont be quite as fatal either.
You will have the choice of Protection and Holy trees which sacrifice dps for survivability or the Retribution Tree which sacrifices survivability for increased dps.
Edited, May 20th 2008 1:33am by arthoriuss
Your wont be killing mobs quite as quickly as that pesky rogue or crit chicken mage but you will find that mob/s beating on you wont be quite as fatal either.
You will have the choice of Protection and Holy trees which sacrifice dps for survivability or the Retribution Tree which sacrifices survivability for increased dps.
Edited, May 20th 2008 1:33am by arthoriuss
If the class couldn't play solo, it wouldn't be in the game. Simple as that.
Is it "good"? That question requires info on the part of you, the OP. Good for what: fast paced leveling? Fast killing? Efficiency? Quests? Grinding?
To that arthoriuss explained a little about, but if you're interested in knowing more, you have to BS more: be specific.
Is it "good"? That question requires info on the part of you, the OP. Good for what: fast paced leveling? Fast killing? Efficiency? Quests? Grinding?
To that arthoriuss explained a little about, but if you're interested in knowing more, you have to BS more: be specific.
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The thing is, Ive been playing a hunter and am at level 14. Ive been playing it for about 3 weeks now and I just cant mesh with it. I thought maybe playing a different class would give me some perspective, but am still a bit nervous because ill be going it alone without a pet lol.
When you can heal yourself and take a beating (i.e. use shield and wear mail/plate), you don't have to worry about survivability. Try a Paladin. :)
Just out of curiosity, what don't you like about your Hunter? All classes play very differently, so it is hard to suggest an option without understand your preferences.
Just out of curiosity, what don't you like about your Hunter? All classes play very differently, so it is hard to suggest an option without understand your preferences.
atm I tried 6 classes up to lvl 70, historicaly in that order:
Priest (heal)
Paladin (heal, now tank)
Druid (heal, now feral)
Mage (ice)
Warlock (demono, now affli)
Shaman (enhancement)
the 3 remaining classes are still low levels halas...
What I noticed:
Healing Priest can be far more better DPS than what I expected listening to the average player. They can farm with their spell power / monstruous mana regen, but can't solo big things (of course there are exceptions and with skill... many things become possible).
Low level paladins can do anything. Just anything. At high level my tank paladin (my main) can solo big things, kill 40 melee mobs in one pull, and just never dies. But her dps against one mob is very low (about 40 times less dps than against 40 mobs lol), and the character makes me cry unless I've just done an heroic and have plenty mage food/water in my bags (ideal time for daylies... or another heroic!).
Feral druids are just the ONLY hybrid spec at high level, and I would recommand it to any one who like tanking and dps and doesn't want to use rerolls or respec.
Mages and warlocks are just... as they are known to be... nothing special to say.
Enhancement shaman are the worst dps class for leveling I ever played, but may be it's just me... oom until lvl 62... Then with the last changes to the mana shield thing... Well just learn to refresh it and sell all the water remaining in your bags...
Edited, May 20th 2008 11:01am by egraynn
Priest (heal)
Paladin (heal, now tank)
Druid (heal, now feral)
Mage (ice)
Warlock (demono, now affli)
Shaman (enhancement)
the 3 remaining classes are still low levels halas...
What I noticed:
Healing Priest can be far more better DPS than what I expected listening to the average player. They can farm with their spell power / monstruous mana regen, but can't solo big things (of course there are exceptions and with skill... many things become possible).
Low level paladins can do anything. Just anything. At high level my tank paladin (my main) can solo big things, kill 40 melee mobs in one pull, and just never dies. But her dps against one mob is very low (about 40 times less dps than against 40 mobs lol), and the character makes me cry unless I've just done an heroic and have plenty mage food/water in my bags (ideal time for daylies... or another heroic!).
Feral druids are just the ONLY hybrid spec at high level, and I would recommand it to any one who like tanking and dps and doesn't want to use rerolls or respec.
Mages and warlocks are just... as they are known to be... nothing special to say.
Enhancement shaman are the worst dps class for leveling I ever played, but may be it's just me... oom until lvl 62... Then with the last changes to the mana shield thing... Well just learn to refresh it and sell all the water remaining in your bags...
Edited, May 20th 2008 11:01am by egraynn
egraynn wrote:
Enhancement shaman are the worst dps class for leveling I ever played, but may be it's just me... oom until lvl 62... Then with the last changes to the mana shield thing... Well just learn to refresh it and sell all the water remaining in your bags...
Might be just you :) But at the very least, not everyone falls into that category. I loved leveling my Enh Shaman, before and after Water Shield. My favorite DPS character now at 70 too, over my Lock, Hunter, and Paly (during respecs of course).
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Its not that I hate it, it just doesnt feel my style, I tried a warlock and got killed a lot early because of running out of mana, a hunter is great because all you need is a good supply of arrows, it just feels different. I cant play a warrior because im not the type to just run up, and yet sitting back isnt totally my style either, I make no sense right lol?
About leveling: I just wanted to add that melee classes require good recent gear to dps and stay alive, but you can level range dps classes completly naked... Tested with a female blood elf demonist ;p
if it took you 3 weeks to get to 14 with a hunter, it will take you a very long time to get to higher lvls with a pally.
I had a very hard time lvling solo in outlands (58+) A lot of the quests there require you to kill mobs that cast. And casters will rape you down. I needed my brother to help me quest from 67-70. With that being said, yes u can solo with a pally, but it wasnt easy for me. I am having an easier time lvling my warrior right now then I did my pally.
If you do choose to lvl a pally, go ret early, and switch over to prot and aoe grind mobs dead...
I had a very hard time lvling solo in outlands (58+) A lot of the quests there require you to kill mobs that cast. And casters will rape you down. I needed my brother to help me quest from 67-70. With that being said, yes u can solo with a pally, but it wasnt easy for me. I am having an easier time lvling my warrior right now then I did my pally.
If you do choose to lvl a pally, go ret early, and switch over to prot and aoe grind mobs dead...
I have a main as a mage. The soloing ability is based on the Class's abilities.
Hunters and Locks have a tank and are DPS classes. Thus they take little/no damage and kill quickly.
Paly and Druid are hybrids - They can tank, DPS, or heal. They are good, but not as fast as the first two. Some say Shamy are in this class - I'm no shamy expert. Maybe they do.... Include shamy here - I have no idea what they do...
Pure classes are the Priest (Built as a healer), Warrior (No ability to heal) Mage (ranged DPS), Rogue (Melee DPS)... In my opinion They are the toughest. They lack 1 specific side of the equation. Example: Wars can deal good DPS and Tank, but a few adds and they can't heal... Or a mage can handle several mobs because most die slightly after they agro, but you hit my cloth wearing main a few times and I crumple...
(As to my final point - plz don't tell me S. Priests are great DPS and totally viable... They are. But from a DPS/Tanking ability - when compared to the rest of the classes - it's clear they are not great at it - good solo, yes - but priest is a healer. I do not intend to argue the point... I'm trying to be general.)
Hunters and Locks have a tank and are DPS classes. Thus they take little/no damage and kill quickly.
Paly and Druid are hybrids - They can tank, DPS, or heal. They are good, but not as fast as the first two. Some say Shamy are in this class - I'm no shamy expert. Maybe they do.... Include shamy here - I have no idea what they do...
Pure classes are the Priest (Built as a healer), Warrior (No ability to heal) Mage (ranged DPS), Rogue (Melee DPS)... In my opinion They are the toughest. They lack 1 specific side of the equation. Example: Wars can deal good DPS and Tank, but a few adds and they can't heal... Or a mage can handle several mobs because most die slightly after they agro, but you hit my cloth wearing main a few times and I crumple...
(As to my final point - plz don't tell me S. Priests are great DPS and totally viable... They are. But from a DPS/Tanking ability - when compared to the rest of the classes - it's clear they are not great at it - good solo, yes - but priest is a healer. I do not intend to argue the point... I'm trying to be general.)
The basic answer is yes. Any tree and you will find that you can lvl and do well.
LOL! Based in a mass multi player game online? True to a point, but in the same breath so very wrong!!
The trick is to find a class that you like. It will take a while to find your "nitch".
I love my Prot Pally, but not my fav.
I really enjoy my Holy/Dis Priest, even shadow spec too, but...
My mage rocks... and slowly building a twink out of it... and I have a hunter that is providing for the twink... it's ok.
Rogue, well... I lost intrest about lvl 15 to be honest.
War, didn't make it past lvl 10.
Now my Enhanc Shammy? I'm really loving it, gone from lvl 22 to 28 in less than a week! (and I have a wonderful woman and four kids, try and find time to play!) And yes, despite the hacking that Shammys get, I'm finding it to be the class I "connect with the most".
Before this? Well I played on my buddies account and had a Lock and a Pally. I went back to the pally and still haven't touched the lock.
In the end it really just boils down to, do you enjoy playing it? I recomend that you take a toon to lvl 20 before you drop it. Liking it at that point? Then take it to 40 (as that where I find most toons really start to shine in it's class). But mostly, have fun. If at anytime you don't like it, roll a new one. You can have up to 10 on a single server (and 10 more on the next, repeat).
GL
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If the class couldn't play solo, it wouldn't be in the game. Simple as that.
LOL! Based in a mass multi player game online? True to a point, but in the same breath so very wrong!!
The trick is to find a class that you like. It will take a while to find your "nitch".
I love my Prot Pally, but not my fav.
I really enjoy my Holy/Dis Priest, even shadow spec too, but...
My mage rocks... and slowly building a twink out of it... and I have a hunter that is providing for the twink... it's ok.
Rogue, well... I lost intrest about lvl 15 to be honest.
War, didn't make it past lvl 10.
Now my Enhanc Shammy? I'm really loving it, gone from lvl 22 to 28 in less than a week! (and I have a wonderful woman and four kids, try and find time to play!) And yes, despite the hacking that Shammys get, I'm finding it to be the class I "connect with the most".
Before this? Well I played on my buddies account and had a Lock and a Pally. I went back to the pally and still haven't touched the lock.
In the end it really just boils down to, do you enjoy playing it? I recomend that you take a toon to lvl 20 before you drop it. Liking it at that point? Then take it to 40 (as that where I find most toons really start to shine in it's class). But mostly, have fun. If at anytime you don't like it, roll a new one. You can have up to 10 on a single server (and 10 more on the next, repeat).
GL
As far as the leveling up solo aspect goes, Pally is extremely slow (the slowest I've played so far of Rogue, Druid, Lock, Pally and Mage). Leveling Prot will give you all too brief periods of extremely fast AoE grinding but the questing is just interminable. Ret is probably the best for leveling and given the recent ret buffs it's proven to be faster than prot for more than 1 of my guildies.
Difficulty wise Pally is one of the easiest. Hunters are easier given a pet and feign death and locks are easier because of a pet and the fact that fear works on an ungodly portion of the mobs in game. Other than those two, though, pallies are definitely the easiest, followed closely by druid, imo.
Difficulty wise Pally is one of the easiest. Hunters are easier given a pet and feign death and locks are easier because of a pet and the fact that fear works on an ungodly portion of the mobs in game. Other than those two, though, pallies are definitely the easiest, followed closely by druid, imo.
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If the class couldn't play solo, it wouldn't be in the game. Simple as that.
LOL! Based in a mass multi player game online? True to a point, but in the same breath so very wrong!!
Blizzard has stated multiple times that one of the main criteria for class balance is, "Can the class solo play to max level?" Fact. So what I said is 100% true, at least for this game, which after all is what we are talking about: this game.
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