Human or Gnome?Follow

Humans get perceptions, which can be nice, and the rep bonus.

Gnomes get Escape Artist and mana bonus.

I'd probably go with Gnome if it were me, even though Warlocks don't normally have mana problems due to life tap, the extra mana would be nice. Escape Artist is the main reason though. That and you can hide well as a gnome.

If you can't decide based on the racial abilities, just stick with which ever race you don't mind staring at for a very very long time.

Depending on your spec...

Gnome demonology warlock with a felgaurd = funny.

sadly with resiliance the chances of that are greatly deminished :P

I wish the little bit of resilience I have built up with a S1 set was enough to diminish getting my **** kicked by a T6 hunter. =P


I'm gnome, but to me race seems a bit arbitrary, just play what you want. It's fun to hide in a bush, or stand inside a Draenei Shaman, but backed against a wall like with Galv or Drek my vantage point is overwhelmed by tall teamates.

Blood Elf ;)

Orc.

Perception's usefulness depends a lot on the situation. In chaotic or unpredictable situations like world PVP or BGs it's not terribly useful, but it's great in arenas. In an arena you KNOW that stealthed rogue/druid is out there somewhere and perception can prevent ambushes.

Haven't played my lock in a while, since my lock my new main has become UD mage, and I also play my UD rogue and resto druid.

Perception is huge in arena, it's 20 seconds, if you ride around you can see people through pillars etc, pop it before a match starts while mounted and you WILL see the stealthed rogue, especially with felhunter out. I've been playing rogue/lock for a while, and I dont know why but the game allows him to ride around with his felhunter out. So I stealth and prevanish + sprint and stay relatively close to him for paranoia buff even though he's mounted and has it o.O

Paranoia is big, perception is even bigger. A good rogue will prevanish just to avoid perception but that still forces him to blow 1/2 vanishes, and he'd have to premed to get his 2nd and now only vanish back for when its really needed.

Druids will stand no chance against perception, their stealth is already sh*t, and PVP druids tend to take 10% armor over +stealth even though they're screwed if they get caught in stealth.


Starting a game aggressively riding around with perception up is huge. My locks a gnome, escape artist is nice, but perception is much bigger for arena then escape artist.



If you want to say "only bad rogues get caught with perception its so easy just stay miles away" go watch nerf sap 10-> http://files.filefront.com/Nerf+Sap+10+Commentary/;9803136;/fileinfo.html

For a while they were the #2 3v3 team on bloodlust (best US battlegroup) catching rogues routinely in stealth, druids too, these are all gladiator teams they are facing. They are consistently getting openers on stealthies because of perception. Their team makeup was also retarded (rogue, warlock, rogue) but they got that high because of perception.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2008 6:38pm by mikelolol

No a warlock will see the rogue sprinting at them from 15 yards out and dismount and dot them, pulling them out of stealth without an opener. Same goes for any human class. Watch nerf sap 10. Go play a rogue or druid in arena.

that and prevanish. Rogues lag too, and you really have to macro shs->sap or you'll get dotted out of stealth.

So vanish while in stealth, use your shs->sap macro and you might get a sap off without getting caught in stealth (you can still petattack them out of stealth).

Rogue who doesnt get opener = pretty f'd rogue. Forcing rogues to blow their first vanish before a fight even starts is also pretty win.

Rogues are lame against warlocks, pretty imbalanced fight, most imbalanced in the game imo. But humans are still great for arena.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2008 10:04pm by mikelolol

the pre-vanish really isn't needed... for starters even though their sapping the lock (no offence but 99% of the time you want to sap the other target.. safer due to no pet) their first target should be our pet, so even if they get pet attacked after getting the sap off it really won't matter.

i'm still going to argue that humans is the worst race in the game for warlocks in a pve/pvp context. all the other racials are just far more beneficial

Loki I've watched the video 4-5 times now picking up subtle new rogue tips each time. There are plenty more saps and stealth busts then what you give credit for. So grats yourself on distorting facts? In the first 2 fights alone Minti pops perception in both, I'm sure the whole team had it up as well since they are all human characters. Minti spots the rogue, spots the druid, chases the druid while never losing target (without perception you have to chase them from 1 foot off their *** to never lose target like that and you can still lose it easily, even on a druid with sh*t +stealth). Second game he saps a mage, oh hai there stealthed rogue, then swaps to the rogue and saps him instead before they unload on the priest.

I know later in the fight I have a clear memory of a druid being chased along the wall in cat form and they open up and rape him, kidney followed by kidney followed by deathcoil followed by no chance to do anything at all.

I guarantee you every single matchup against any stealth teams all 3 of them have perception going at once. I never said it was the best racial, but personally for arena I would pick human over gnome. Escape artist is on a 1:45 cooldown now. I have a lock, it's a great racial but I'd rather take perception for arena. For everything else I'd rather take escape artist.

/end my discussion here.

@ OP, its your choice. If you really have to ask you probably don't arena so probably don't care about any of this. Gnomes are cool, funny looking, have a bit more int, have +engi skill, escape artist is cool, and you can hide in the bushes of WSG and throw dots around. Fun times.


P.S. 2 rogues share diminishing kthxbai.

Edited, Jun 4th 2008 3:57pm by mikelolol

mike... you do realise that when a rogue is stealthed, they get a passive perception... mix in a paranoia and their own perception if human and ya, they'll see other stealthed targets from a mile away... but this topic is about locks with it and it really is a waste when you could instead get a bonus to int AND escape artist (one of, if not THE most powerful alliance racials)