As a mage my primary job is basically converting MP into whoop ***. After watching some of the other mages in my guild I made the switch from fire to arcane to get my DPS up. And so far I can say that the switch was a good move. My DPS is up from about 800 to around 1000. My major problem now is combating OOM. Icey Veins + Arcane power depletes my MP faster then ever before. During boss fights I use Mage Armor and I'm popping my mana gems and pots as soon as I can (about 8000/10700 mp). I evocate at around 10% mp, but by the time I burn through that I still have about 30 seconds left on mana gems/pots.
I'm still new to arcane (about 3 days) so I know I don't have a good rotation (if you can call it that). All I do really is spam Arcane Blast, mixed in with Arcane Power, Icey Vines and Cold Snap. Does anyone have some suggestion for a better rotation? I'm also looking for new ways to restore mana faster. I know my gear isn't the best, but I am spell hit capped. Maybe I need to change some of my gems to +MP5 or +INT at the expense of +Spell Damage.
Anyway, any advice would be helpful, Thanks.
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Can you post your armory?
Are you getting a shadow priest in your group?
The way that many (current) deep arcane people are doing their 'rotations' is to spam arcane blast until all cooldowns are gone and then spam frostbolt (assuming 40/0/21) to get mana back (if you have the mana regen you should be regening mana faster than you are spending it with this build spamming frostbolts). Once another cooldown is up, pop it, and spam more arcane blast.
I was leery of this build as I am not always guarenteed a shadowpriest in our raid (we only have 1 well geared one and he can't make it to every raid) so if you don't have a shadow priest in your group I wouldn't even really attempt a deep arcane build because of the mana inefficiency. I would also definitely not use AP/IV if you don't have one unless it is in the last 10% or so and you know you won't run oom.
Are you getting a shadow priest in your group?
The way that many (current) deep arcane people are doing their 'rotations' is to spam arcane blast until all cooldowns are gone and then spam frostbolt (assuming 40/0/21) to get mana back (if you have the mana regen you should be regening mana faster than you are spending it with this build spamming frostbolts). Once another cooldown is up, pop it, and spam more arcane blast.
I was leery of this build as I am not always guarenteed a shadowpriest in our raid (we only have 1 well geared one and he can't make it to every raid) so if you don't have a shadow priest in your group I wouldn't even really attempt a deep arcane build because of the mana inefficiency. I would also definitely not use AP/IV if you don't have one unless it is in the last 10% or so and you know you won't run oom.
As requested : My Armory Link
Yea, there are only 2-3 Shadow Priests in the guild that I see at raid time. I do love the help with MP, it just doesn't seem like enough sometimes. Maybe I should switch to Frost Bolt sooner.
Yea, there are only 2-3 Shadow Priests in the guild that I see at raid time. I do love the help with MP, it just doesn't seem like enough sometimes. Maybe I should switch to Frost Bolt sooner.
I raided with an spriest and an ele shammy as 40/0/21.
had close to 13000 mana and over 300mp5 during cast raid buffed.
Still ran out of mana, its a very hard spec and very $$.
I would sometimes wand to get that much more mana back when i knew i had a burst coming. Because even though you can regen mana during frostbolts, its not much.
I only ran it for week and a half though. Wasn't terrible, some long encounters were a real drag though.
had close to 13000 mana and over 300mp5 during cast raid buffed.
Still ran out of mana, its a very hard spec and very $$.
I would sometimes wand to get that much more mana back when i knew i had a burst coming. Because even though you can regen mana during frostbolts, its not much.
I only ran it for week and a half though. Wasn't terrible, some long encounters were a real drag though.
Add frostbolts into your rotation to slow mana consumption. Save icy veins for bloodlust, and imo use frostbolts through the duration, you just can't keep up spamming AB through haste unless it's an incredibly short encounter.
It takes skill + practice, try a 5xAB, 2xFB rotation and see how that treats you. The main thing though is don't fall into a true rotation. Start with 5/2 and judge mana consumption from there.
Ideal fight is pure AB spam, even through IV+AP but realistically you'll have to work frostbolts into your rotation.
Do you have 2pc T5?
edit- you posted your armory, so that probably answers the question, but for whatever reason armory hates me and never lets me view it (98% of the time tells me "Armory is busy"). Grrr..
I disagree that it's expensive. If you're not using mana potions on every cooldown as fire, you should be using destruction potions instead which are far more expensive.
Edited, May 16th 2008 4:06pm by mikelolol
It takes skill + practice, try a 5xAB, 2xFB rotation and see how that treats you. The main thing though is don't fall into a true rotation. Start with 5/2 and judge mana consumption from there.
Ideal fight is pure AB spam, even through IV+AP but realistically you'll have to work frostbolts into your rotation.
Do you have 2pc T5?
edit- you posted your armory, so that probably answers the question, but for whatever reason armory hates me and never lets me view it (98% of the time tells me "Armory is busy"). Grrr..
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I raided with an spriest and an ele shammy as 40/0/21.
had close to 13000 mana and over 300mp5 during cast raid buffed.
Still ran out of mana, its a very hard spec and very $$.
had close to 13000 mana and over 300mp5 during cast raid buffed.
Still ran out of mana, its a very hard spec and very $$.
I disagree that it's expensive. If you're not using mana potions on every cooldown as fire, you should be using destruction potions instead which are far more expensive.
Edited, May 16th 2008 4:06pm by mikelolol
If your not I would suggest using mana oils since that is another 14 mp/5 then you can use restore mana prime on your chest, if you already are then I don't know what to say.
Also for some reason I can't get your armory to work but maybe if you said some of your enchants I could make a few suggestions to help there.
Also for some reason I can't get your armory to work but maybe if you said some of your enchants I could make a few suggestions to help there.
Rotation: AB until you're almost OOM, Frostbolt till a cooldown comes up, AB till almost oom, frostbolt till a cooldown comes up, etc.
If you don't always have a shadow priest, don't bother. You won't even be able to regain mana while Frostbolting, let alone keep up with the massive mana consumption of AB'ing constantly.
It also only really works well on short encounters (i.e. Hyjal/BT, not SSC/TK). Don't just look at your DPS but your total damage output - if your DPS is usually higher but your total damage is lower because you can't keep up with the mana constraints on longer fights, you'll be better off with Fire.
If you don't always have a shadow priest, don't bother. You won't even be able to regain mana while Frostbolting, let alone keep up with the massive mana consumption of AB'ing constantly.
It also only really works well on short encounters (i.e. Hyjal/BT, not SSC/TK). Don't just look at your DPS but your total damage output - if your DPS is usually higher but your total damage is lower because you can't keep up with the mana constraints on longer fights, you'll be better off with Fire.
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