Paladin vs. Rogue.Follow

You havn't phrased your question well, do you mean in a one on one context, as dps in a 2v2, 3v3, 5v5 context, or in a raid dps context?

Since you specified T5-6 i'm going to assume you mean raid dps, in which case rogues should win, most dps charts put rogues near the top, and paladins somewhat further down. Retri DPS is still a little lower than other melee dps, however they have some good utility (extra buff, 3% raidwide crit, possibly keeping up JoW and JoL) which means one retri can operate well in a support-dps role, but multiple retri pallys in one raid is uncommon, whereas multiple rogues is usually essential.

If you mean in a PvP context, as the second half of your question implies, then once again rogues are the great allrounders, they have plenty of stuns and interrupts, so should be able to take a pally of any spec one on one. A holy pally is very resilient and may be able to nuke you down, a prot may be able to porcupine you to death, and a retri may get lucky with some big crits + procs + judgement + crusader strike and almost oneshot you., but in general a well played rogue has enough tricks to win.

In a team PvP context the rogue is a better allrounder, and operates better as sole dps or one of two in 2v2/3v3, the retri pally has excellent burst damage, which when combined with other dps (a rogue stunlock, warrior MS etc.) can be very potent in 3v3/5v5, but they don't operate as well as lone DPS.

Edited, May 14th 2008 6:35pm by Tinyknight

Edited, May 14th 2008 6:36pm by Tinyknight

Equivalently geared, the pally will win at least 85% of the time, without bubble. Especially holy pallies, they just tear rogues to shreds.

I've beaten the odd rogue as holy, its the ones who seem intent on maxing their dps instead of stunlocking. I don't know why people consider 1v1 to be important, the only scenario where it could possibly matter is at the death of an arena, but in that case its rarely even people are low on mana/hp, no cooldowns etc.

Edited, May 15th 2008 10:39am by Tinyknight

I would think that a Prot Paladin would give a rogue a hard time. With all the reflective damage, bubble, healing, armor, stamina, regular speed attacks within bubble, etc....you would think that a Prot would easily outlast the rogue.

Holy - I usually get my butt handed to me by rogues. They stun me to death with the 18 million different stuns. Yes, I can bubble, but once the bubble is up....I'm in trouble. Of course, I can easily kill crappy rogues. The good ones will wait out my bubble, then kick my butt.

Ret - no idea. I'd pay to see that fight though. I've seen some awesome Rets do amazing things. Not many classes can stand in their way if properly played.

honestly imo it all comes down to how they play and what the given situation is..if the rogue doesnt know how to fully utilize their abils then the pally will take it easy...same with the pally if he cant play but given the gear you said above it should be a pretty even fight and based on skill that just my 2 cents

I've admittedly never seen any kind of Pally and/or Rogue in T5-T6 go at it, but as far as PvP gear and PvP in general, this one still goes to the Rogue.

Ret Pally vs. Rogue (which is what the Pally is going to be if he's PvP-ing with intent to kill), like most vs. Rogue match-ups, basically comes down to how well the Rogue runs his lockdown and manages his cooldowns. On paper, the Ret Pally has the advantage over the Rogue, but once the skill of both players reaches a certain point, the Rogue eclipses the Paladin.

In other words, the Paladin has a lower ceiling. There's just not a lot a Paladin player can change around to adjust or compensate for anything the Rogue does if he runs his rotations to perfection.

Edited, May 16th 2008 11:10am by Gaudion