3 (or 4) Combat Sword QuestionsFollow

In my (limited) experience, Demea's build is more of a PVP design, due to the limited use of Gouge and Kick in PVE situations. Lightning Reflexes might be kind of meh in the long run, but I'd prefer it over Imp. Gouge since I'm not real big on serious PVP.

Edit: I'm purposefully abstaining from your other questions, because you really need to figure that out for yourself to truly get a grasp on the class. Read the tooltips on the talents, figure out which ones would be most beneficial as you go. Don't waste your money on respecs every few levels to get the 'optimum' build for that level, and just go with the talents as you earn them. Only respec if you make a big mistake and click on one you really REALLY didn't want.

Edited, May 14th 2008 3:44pm by Norellicus

If you're looking for a level-by-level guide to spending your points, there's one in Osiris' guide, which is linked at the start of the FAQ in this forum. It's not the only way to do it, and if you're not bothered about money, you might prefer to put a few points in Assassination as you level, then respec at lvl 30 (for Blade Flurry) and again at 40 (for Adrenaline Rush). Those are game-changing talents, and you'll want those talents as soon as you can get them.

Imp Gouge is really a PvP talent - it makes the stun last long enough for you to restealth (5 seconds out of combat), but that only applies to PvP. Great for getting out of a ganking on a PvP server, for instance. Lightning Reflexes is pretty "meh", it'll just reduce your damage taken a little, but if you never, ever PvP then it's probably a better option.

Imp Kick is taken for the silence effect, which has a 50%/100% chance to prevent casters using the same school of magic for 2 seconds. Again, more useful in PvP, but has some uses in instances too, particularly pre-70.

For your opener, you'll want to be stealthed to use Cheap Shot once you have it, but with a combat build, it's not the end of the world if you just walk up to a mob and start whacking it. Doing that will increase your downtime, as you'll take more damage, but it's better than spending ages trying to sneak around to get an opener. Don't forget Slice n' Dice after you've opened - a 1pt or 2pt SnD should be plenty for single mobs.

As a rule, I think people worry too much about their end-game builds while they level. Take the time to try things out - as long as you get the key talents, you can't really gimp yourself too badly for levelling. For example, I loved having Riposte while I was levelling, but I'd never suggest it as part of a lvl 70 PvE build, particularly once you're done questing, because you shouldn't often get a chance to parry when you're in a group.

Have fun :)

Edit: Failed to correct Imp Kick mechanics - see post below :(

Edited, May 14th 2008 4:22pm by zhaharik

Edited, May 14th 2008 5:39pm by zhaharik

Combat swords is a PvE spec right now at 70. For L70 PvE, you don't need the PvP talents in the combat tree.

If you're leveling on a PvP server, you might want them ;)

Maybe I should have read this before posting a new thread. *Smacks one's self in the face*. I'm also a casual solo gamer right now who has class jumped for over a year but never come to grasps with a rogue. I know I kicked a mock out of fear lol then after he came to I rendered him lol while still attacking...rendered him again...waved goodbye and finished him. I know if we were alot higher he'd school me. But I attacked first. I am a combat rogue not built for pvp...but will if provoked like i've said so many times before.

I know we bug you all with wanting help on figuring talents. But just want you to know I've learned so much by just reading peoples builds getting an idea. As for me I just wanna do damage to multiple enemies and be able to solo farely well. Thats why we bug you. :D

Check my armory.

That's the endgame build.

Move the spec to swords and you're good.

Edit since I just respec'd and wowhead is down:

20/41/0

Edited, May 15th 2008 9:07pm by Theophany

Take Imp eviscerate for leveling. And endurance rather than nerves of steel.

I do the same thing ace. But for a combat swords rogue. Gg is not used by myself much. I usually just stealth pick pocket the whole group. Usually 3-4 mobs. I sap One of them then attack with SS,SS, Slice and dice, SS,SS eviserate. But I never get to fully use that cause well they die to quickly.