2.4.2 ... um, ok?Follow

Yay? Only time I ever use frostbrand is vs fire elementals or infernals while solo'ing.... as resto. LOL I think it's kinda funny how WoW "changes" shaman. By change, I mean... they don't change much of anything but just put something on every patch so they look busy.

Whereas...



Yay my mage is happy though! Dare I say the difference between the two classes' upgrades are night and day. And I read something about a Theramore (alliance) teleport AND a Stonard (horde) teleport. :O

Edited, May 13th 2008 9:10am by Jiade

Enhancers got a terrific buff in the change that makes most weapons equippable in main or off-hand. That's a buff for us, rogues and fury warriors, though with the dearth of correct weapons for wf it may have the most impact on us.

Hunters got the biggest actual skill buff this patch. Scare Beast is supposed to be instant now, though there seems to be some kind of bug or confusion about it.

Awww, I would have wanted to see that.^^



I wouldn't worry too much about the frostbrand thing--it's nice, if not too useful, and it's not like they nerfed flametongue weapon damage to make up for it or anything.

The first mage change is not really a buff, simply a change.

It used to be 1 point was 2 seconds of 25% less chance to be hit, and 2 points was 4 seconds of 25% less chance to be hit. Now it's 1 point as 4 seconds to 13% less chance to be hit, and 2 points is 4 seconds of 25% less chance to be hit.

2 points result in the exact same thing, and few builds take only less than max talent points in a talent.

He was overly harsh, but the OP saying the difference between the mage changes and the shaman changes was "night and day" is, for the most part, stupid. Change 1 is a purely neutral change, Changes 2-4 are bug fixes, and Change 5 is split between being a bug fix and a tiny buff. And Change 6, the Teleports, have no bearing on combat whatsoever.

Shaman simply got nothing this patch, it's true. But it was stupid to try to contrast mage changes this patch.

Yeah, well it's another glitch fix by blizz. Glad to see they have their priorities straight.

The only thing that we can count on 100% every patch is that Hunters get a buff of some sort. Some big, some small, but a buff none-the-less.

The 2nd most consistent thing would be shammies getting ignored...

This patch only proves my theory once again.

Oh well. I'll just sit and hope for expansion to make things right. Until then.

P.S.: Whats that you say about enhancers being able to equip new/different/more weapons? Did I miss something in patch notes?

P.P.S.: NVM...found it.

* "Most Main Hand Weapons are now One Hand Weapons."

cool beans!

Edited, May 14th 2008 9:29am by voydangel

I know I'm getting tired of the one line patch notes for shamans, 90% of which are something along the lines of "Rank 3 Flametongue will now properly do less damage than Rank 4"

I don't know how many times I have seen patch notes where those sort of fixes are the only thing they have touched on, like it even mattered what kind of damage rank 3 did compared to rank 4 when you have a lot of spell damage.

I don't know what to say about that change... Frostbrand is just, well, useless?

I use flametounge when I pvp.

Edited, May 16th 2008 4:02pm by Draeneipally

Frostbrand has two big problems:

1. It's a chance-on-hit that doesn't even come close to justifying itself; WF is OMGWTF damage when it does proc and Flametongue does more consistent damage over time for those with spell damage.

2. It's also supposed to be justified by its seconary effect. Problem is, we already have two snares, and both are more reliable in addition to the fact that one is AoE and one is ranged.

Personally, I would like to see Frost Brand do less damage than Flametongue but still proc every time and cause a different secondary effect, maybe slow attack speed by 1-2% (and stack to 5-10%), or give the opponent an extra 1% chance to miss (and stack to 5%), or something like that. I only use it very situationally in PvP now as is.