Ok im up to 11854 HP and have 1 solid star of elune left. I have 2 8 def rating gems to choose to replace and everyone is telling me to replace the one in the gun I have.
Here is the problem I see with that... The socket bonus from that gun is another 3 stam... which while it isn't alot that still helps where as I could replace the other 8 def rating gem with the 12 stam gem and lose nothing out of the transition.
Can someone help explain why everyone says I should get rid of my socket bonus (which is stamina) over another seeming more viable trade where I will get 12 stam out of the deal and not 9?
*EDIT* I just replaced a few pieces of gear and brought my HP up over 12k. I still want to try to reach 13k with the changes and need to see what else I can do.
Edited, May 8th 2008 11:46pm by HitashLevat
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best peice of advice i could give you, save up money for a Darkmoon Fair Card..
Either Madness or Vengence Deck.. +57 Stam on the trinkets
You could always shoot for both and keep them both equiped untill you get some nice kara trinkets.
Either Madness or Vengence Deck.. +57 Stam on the trinkets
You could always shoot for both and keep them both equiped untill you get some nice kara trinkets.
Yeah I was batting around buying the vengence deck this week while darkmoon faire was in Shat.
I opted against it as 2k was quite steep after I just funneled 2.5k gearing =( I wasn't trying to get myself locked into the spec as much as I did... Oh well.
Now I am down to 400g again... =S I so could have had my epic flier /grumbles
Edited, May 9th 2008 12:26am by HitashLevat
I opted against it as 2k was quite steep after I just funneled 2.5k gearing =( I wasn't trying to get myself locked into the spec as much as I did... Oh well.
Now I am down to 400g again... =S I so could have had my epic flier /grumbles
Edited, May 9th 2008 12:26am by HitashLevat
Shikamaruu wrote:
best peice of advice i could give you, save up money for a Darkmoon Fair Card..
Either Madness or Vengence Deck.. +51 Stam on the trinkets
You could always shoot for both and keep them both equiped untill you get some nice kara trinkets.
Either Madness or Vengence Deck.. +51 Stam on the trinkets
You could always shoot for both and keep them both equiped untill you get some nice kara trinkets.
FTFY
Enchants/Patches (plus some cats and dogs):
Legs +30
Gloves +10
Boots +12
Gem (gun) +9 (due to bonus loss)
Gem (boot)+12
Shield +18
Bracers +12
=103 more stamina (add another 5% from talents)
Get Dabiri's Enigma from Netherstorm Quest to make up the +def deficit from regemming (not a great trinket, but it will give you the +def you need and its easy to get).
Throw +150 health to chest and you've got yourself a helluva lot more health.
Cheers!
Tiq
Legs +30
Gloves +10
Boots +12
Gem (gun) +9 (due to bonus loss)
Gem (boot)+12
Shield +18
Bracers +12
=103 more stamina (add another 5% from talents)
Get Dabiri's Enigma from Netherstorm Quest to make up the +def deficit from regemming (not a great trinket, but it will give you the +def you need and its easy to get).
Throw +150 health to chest and you've got yourself a helluva lot more health.
Cheers!
Tiq
drop a profession to take up engineering.
goblin rocket launcher - 45 stam
tankatronic goggles - 97 stam with gemming
grind 100 badges for chestplate of stoicism - 90 stam with gemming
Edited, May 10th 2008 10:59am by fromanthebarbarian
goblin rocket launcher - 45 stam
tankatronic goggles - 97 stam with gemming
grind 100 badges for chestplate of stoicism - 90 stam with gemming
Edited, May 10th 2008 10:59am by fromanthebarbarian
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Ignore that last bit of advice. Engineering is great, but don't go dropping your professions now that you have come so far with it and can make great money from your 2.
Engineering is not needed to get the gear. All you need is enchants. Seriously. Get +stam to your chest, bracers, shield and feet, and get the leatherworking patches for your other parts.
If you are struggling to maintain your defense without gemming for it, either replace some of your greens that you still have or go and put the +defense into your cloak and it should level it out (as opposed to having agility or armour).
And for your gun sure you are getting +3 stamina from gemming defense, but you are losing 9 stamina (almost 100 health) from not gemming it with a +12 stamina. Defense isn't needed after 490 (get more if you can but you don't need it). I'm surprised you didn't gem your gun first with a +12, as it is going to be a long time before it gets replaced by raiding. Some of the other things you will probably replace in your first couple of raids and the +12s will be wasted (sort of).
You said you still have 400g? Sounds like enough to get yourself some enchanting mats and at least some +9 staminas to fill out your blues and replace the def gems.
Engineering is not needed to get the gear. All you need is enchants. Seriously. Get +stam to your chest, bracers, shield and feet, and get the leatherworking patches for your other parts.
If you are struggling to maintain your defense without gemming for it, either replace some of your greens that you still have or go and put the +defense into your cloak and it should level it out (as opposed to having agility or armour).
And for your gun sure you are getting +3 stamina from gemming defense, but you are losing 9 stamina (almost 100 health) from not gemming it with a +12 stamina. Defense isn't needed after 490 (get more if you can but you don't need it). I'm surprised you didn't gem your gun first with a +12, as it is going to be a long time before it gets replaced by raiding. Some of the other things you will probably replace in your first couple of raids and the +12s will be wasted (sort of).
You said you still have 400g? Sounds like enough to get yourself some enchanting mats and at least some +9 staminas to fill out your blues and replace the def gems.
Chosenx wrote:
Ignore that last bit of advice. Engineering is great, but don't go dropping your professions now that you have come so far with it and can make great money from your 2.
Engineering is not needed to get the gear. All you need is enchants. Seriously. Get +stam to your chest, bracers, shield and feet, and get the leatherworking patches for your other parts.
Engineering is not needed to get the gear. All you need is enchants. Seriously. Get +stam to your chest, bracers, shield and feet, and get the leatherworking patches for your other parts.
gathering professions are great when leveling UP to 70, before you have access to a flying mount and 200g worth of dailies (not counting heroic and normal dungeon dailies, that's another 40g/day). that's 1400g a week just from SSO (quel'danas and outland), ogri'la, and skettis dailies, not to mention all the money you can make from farming primals. i dropped mining and skinning a LONG time ago and have never had any trouble making money.
simply ignoring the engineering helm by itself is poor advice. this is a T5 equivalent tanking helm that can be worn at level 62 with 350 engineering; compare to the T5 helm itself. that is so ridiculously OP well before you even get into T5 content that you can't just say "ignore that last bit of advice". you need to have Vashj on farm and have decked out all your tanks, healers and shadow priests before you even get a CHANCE of seeing a T5 helm.
on the subject of engineering, compare the T5 equiv dps helm to the T5 helm. consider also that the rocket launcher is much cheaper than a darkmoon faire card, you can get it anytime and it makes farming heroics and pulling mob packs easier... pick a caster, shoot and LoS, then tank another caster and spell reflect tank the first caster. then there's repair bots, what raid doesn't love repair bots?
Chosen, i think your advice might have some merit before SSO dailies made moneymaking truly trivial. these days, you don't need two gathering professions to make money for your epic flyer, just a month's worth of dailies.
Edited, May 11th 2008 3:03pm by fromanthebarbarian
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Yeah I must admit I wrote the top part before checking his actual professions then checked and left it as it was. I initially thought he would have had 1 gather 1 crafting profession.
However the advice still does stand I believe. Engineering is in my opinion the best profession for a warrior, however dropping a profession and leveling engineering when you are a new 70 still isn't ideal in my opinion, however it would depend on your financial situation.
If you have the money then sure go for it. Otherwise I think your time would be better spent gearing yourself without engineering (as you will need money to do so) and then consider leveling it, so you can both raid and then level it on the side. Then if you do choose engineering you will be even better geared on top of what you have.
I guess the main reason I said to ignore the advice is I am sick of seeing people saying engineering is the only way (lot of that on wow forums). It is great, but saying professions should be dropped for it is drastic especially on a first time player. Given the 2 gathering professions though there should be no problem in going to level engineering, but it is most definately not needed which is the main point I was trying to make.
However the advice still does stand I believe. Engineering is in my opinion the best profession for a warrior, however dropping a profession and leveling engineering when you are a new 70 still isn't ideal in my opinion, however it would depend on your financial situation.
If you have the money then sure go for it. Otherwise I think your time would be better spent gearing yourself without engineering (as you will need money to do so) and then consider leveling it, so you can both raid and then level it on the side. Then if you do choose engineering you will be even better geared on top of what you have.
I guess the main reason I said to ignore the advice is I am sick of seeing people saying engineering is the only way (lot of that on wow forums). It is great, but saying professions should be dropped for it is drastic especially on a first time player. Given the 2 gathering professions though there should be no problem in going to level engineering, but it is most definately not needed which is the main point I was trying to make.
you agree that engineering gives a warrior access to great pieces of gear, and that is the point i'm trying to make. i agree with your point that as a new 70, he can use his two gathering professions to make money to gear up other slots. i myself did go through a few phases with my professions: mining/skinning, then mining/bs, then finally bs/eng.
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