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#1 May 08 2008 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
OK, you're on an RP server, finished the quest (or whatever) to unlock the class, and now you can create a brand new Level 50 gnomish DK.

My first question is about backstory. Surely the DK did something over the past 50 levels that got him to that state. Any hints as to a good few back stories?

Next, the role-play itself. Are there any general personality traits that every Death Knight should have?


#2 May 08 2008 at 11:07 AM Rating: Excellent
It really depends on what kind of ordeal Blizzard make the death knight go through in order for them to playable character.

While I don't think you should typecast 'people' by the class they are, I can't see a Death Knight being cheerful or easy going. Think about a Vietnam Veteran crossed with a Goth/Emo... He has actually stared death in the face, gone to the deepest and lowest level of depravity, all but sold his soul to the Lich King... and barely made it back.

Thousand yard stare is mandatory.

Not quite the type of character I'd want to roleplay, but there you have it.

Edited, May 8th 2008 3:10pm by Tyrandor
#3 May 08 2008 at 3:24 PM Rating: Good
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A thousand dark-loners-with-a-mysterious-past will pop up on RP servers by the amateurs RPers.

For an insight into amateur RPers:

http://www.meghanohara.org/wordpress/2007/09/01/a-mystery-revealed/
#4 May 08 2008 at 7:53 PM Rating: Decent
Raglu wrote:
For an insight into amateur RPers

OK, so what do the professional RPers do?

Possibly, they might warn the amateurs to not try it at home, since it could be damaging to your toon. "Y'know, you could lose an eye doing that!"
#5 May 14 2008 at 5:25 PM Rating: Decent
If you think about it, it makes perfect sense. People usually end up playing classes that relate to them somehow. For instance, I play a hunter. I tie into that role because I hunt side by side with a dog in bird hunting and I fish. I am an outdoors man. I kind of think that your personality and lifestyle dictate what class you choose. Just IMO though.
#6 May 14 2008 at 6:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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I tend to think people play the class that best suits the personality they would like to have. Not to say that every MMO player is some kind of confused loner, but I don't know many people who'd like to roll a character like themselves. Games are about fantasy, and if you class matters to you on a personal level then it ought to fulfil that fantasy.

Personally I didnt give a toss when I rolled my character, I just thought 'Warlock' sounded cooler than 'Mage'.

If my class reflected my personality I would possess and innate desire to control and dominate, an unhealthy obsession with fire, and a deep hatred and mistrust of all that lives...

Oh, wait... 0.o

~sin

EDIT: Something else occurs to me. How would you roleplay something as evil as a Death Knight anyway?

DK: "Hello. You appear to have soft, warm, fragile skin."
Dude: "Hey look buddy I was jus-"
DK: "ARE YOU ALIVE??"
Dude: "Er.... yea I gue-"
DK: "I HATE YOU"

Edited, May 14th 2008 11:09pm by Sinstralis
#7 May 14 2008 at 7:12 PM Rating: Decent
Sinstralis wrote:
I tend to think people play the class that best suits the personality they would like to have. Not to say that every MMO player is some kind of confused loner, but I don't know many people who'd like to roll a character like themselves. Games are about fantasy, and if you class matters to you on a personal level then it ought to fulfil that fantasy.

Personally I didnt give a toss when I rolled my character, I just thought 'Warlock' sounded cooler than 'Mage'.

If my class reflected my personality I would possess and innate desire to control and dominate, an unhealthy obsession with fire, and a deep hatred and mistrust of all that lives...

Oh, wait... 0.o

I dunno. I role play characters that almost certainly do not fulfill any of my personal fantasies. It's just that they're interesting. For example, my rogue is a fellow right off the farm - he changed his name from Clem to Slithershade because he "woulda bin laffed right outen the roguie guild with th' olden name!" My hunter isn't really a hunter. He's a hit man from the thirties (a Damon Runyan type), who came from the back streets of Orgrimmar where the tourists aren't allowed. He doesn't quest. Instead, he fulfills contracts. They tend to fulfill their own fantasies.

I've decided that for my Death Knight, I'll probably be playing a toon that never wanted to be one and doesn't want to be one, but "things just happened". Who ordered this?
#8 May 14 2008 at 9:59 PM Rating: Decent
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I can't get past the words "role-playing" yet.

*giggle*

And they said I was immature in high school....well LOOK AT ME NOW! HAH! I SHOWED THEM!
#9 May 15 2008 at 1:56 PM Rating: Decent
riprunner wrote:
I can't get past the words "role-playing" yet.

*giggle*

And since you can't, and are in a thread about role playing, you'll know the reason I rated you down.
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And they said I was immature in high school....well LOOK AT ME NOW! HAH! I SHOWED THEM!

If you're out of high school, your immaturity is self-evident. On the other hand, if you're out of high school, it's because you lifted the dropout statistics.

Edited, May 15th 2008 3:01pm by ohmikeghod
#10 May 16 2008 at 2:19 PM Rating: Good
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ohmikeghod the Venerable wrote:
riprunner wrote:
I can't get past the words "role-playing" yet.

*giggle*

And since you can't, and are in a thread about role playing, you'll know the reason I rated you down.
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And they said I was immature in high school....well LOOK AT ME NOW! HAH! I SHOWED THEM!

If you're out of high school, your immaturity is self-evident. On the other hand, if you're out of high school, it's because you lifted the dropout statistics.

Edited, May 15th 2008 3:01pm by ohmikeghod


You've quite a sense of humor.
#11 Jun 09 2008 at 3:47 PM Rating: Excellent
For a hint on how to role-play a Death Knight, one could start with Advanced DnD (the first version with hard-cover books) and consult the book entitled Fiend Folio (maybe an old copy is available in your local hobby/game shop).

For a link to an MMORPG, I would liken it most closely* to a Shadow Knight in EverQuest (from years past when people actually role-played in EQ).

*FYI, I've played EQ, EQ2, DAoC, Guild Wars and WoW - so they are my references points.
#12 Jun 09 2008 at 4:50 PM Rating: Decent
My own personal outlook on the class (and how I plan to RP it myself) is a character who saw a solution to some problem by siding with the Lich King, but has come to hate himself. For example, he believed that the Alliance was weak in its dealings with the Orcs, and each other. In the Scourge, he saw a unified, strong force with no internal conflict (not until the Forsaken, anyway). As time progressed, what he had thought a way to bring humanity together under a single banner became clear as the evil force it was. He finally cast off his alliegence to the Lich King and now tries to redeem himself for his sins.

Random Person: "Are you here to save us from the monsters?"
DK: "No, dear child. I'm one of the monsters, here to atone."
#13 Jun 09 2008 at 5:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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i was thinking of doing the whole "you dont know what ive seen man! and you dont want to know!" style, but i think it would be far creepier to be that guy who actually really LOVES his job. youve been thru hell and back and you found that, hey, this aint so bad. you kill stuff, you spread plague and suffering upon those unfortunate enough to oppose you, and you do this all while giggling like a school girl on christmas morn. you take the most succulent delight in raising your opponents from the dead to serve your needs, and the discordant cacophony that is the wracking cough of your diseased foe plays like a string quartet.

and underneath it all, there is a desire, cold and distant but ever prevalent, to find the f*cker that did this to you and to do it to him endlessly, until you die of exhaustion, dragging his long-suffering form to the grave with you. but what remains of your sanity is, at best, fragile. you survived your "graduation" as you call it only by sectioning off what little humanity you could scrape together into a small pocket of your mind where it fed off the hate endlessly brewing towards your "teachers". being released from the lich kings control unhinged a part of the door keeping your hate-filled humanity separate from your corrupt psyche, and a slow seep started.

left with the option of damning yourself by your actions or being damned from within by your own hateful humanity, you did what seemed like the only logical thing at the time: you started laughing. and now, for some reason, you cant stop.

Edited, Jun 9th 2008 6:28pm by Quor
#14 Jun 09 2008 at 6:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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and the discordant cacophony that is the wracking cough of your diseased foe plays like a string quartet.

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and underneath it all, there is a desire, cold and distant but ever prevalent, to find the f*cker that did this to you and to do it to him endlessly, until you die of exhaustion, dragging his long-suffering form to the grave with you

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you survived your "graduation" as you call it only by sectioning off what little humanity you could scrape together into a small pocket of your mind where it fed off the hate endlessly brewing towards your "teachers"


....Quor...buddy...you really need to go back to Group ;)

On that note, while playing a truly unrepentant murdering, torturing psychopath is certainly less complicated than the guilt-wracked Emoknights Templar that will certainly descend upon the game soon, it doesnt allow much room for actual 'Roleplaying' beyond what we already do in-game.

Think about it, every single character in WoW behaves like a merciless, amoral butchering killer happy to slaughter a few more for a few scraps of silver. Go murder that entire clan of Desolace Centaur, living, sentient beings that are neutral to you, to curry favour with their blood enemies? Why sure! Is it far? What's that Hemet? Too much rare wildlife in Garand, roaming majestically about their ancient lands, peaceful and serene? We'll soon fix that! I'm Fire spec, want 'em roasted or barbecued?

Seriously, if you stop to think about what we actually DO all day we're all of us, to a man woman and child, really quite nasty fuckers already...
#15 Jun 10 2008 at 12:14 AM Rating: Excellent
Sinstralis wrote:
Seriously, if you stop to think about what we actually DO all day we're all of us, to a man woman and child, really quite nasty fuckers already...

That's true, but roleplaying is being that nasty f**ker in persona. All that really means is figuring out why your toon is that way - basically getting into the character's skull. I know we aren't nice. ...and if we are, there has to be a reason behind that, too.

Once the personality of the toon is determined, getting into and playing that persona becomes child's play. You don't have to make up any additional stories, or do skits to be roleplaying, because once you get into the mindset you will be roleplaying. That's when the ordinary conversations about TV shows and local news become the distractions and get annoying.

There are as many personalities as there are people in the world. Most of them are pretty mundane - they just want to get on with their lives and be left in peace. However, taking a trait and magnifying it makes for a very good persona. Hate is a common one, but deciding what to hate is a decision that needs to be made. It doesn't have to be one of the player races, or even an intelligent race, either. Love is another common trait, but so is indifference. Mental instability is sometimes fun, but so is naivety. Optomism or pessimism? All of those go into the makeup of a real character, and if you role-play, the personality should not be the same as your RL personality.

Research also helps a bit - if you have a priest, for example, doing a bit of research on uncommon religions can help you develop a philosophy for your toon which might be quite different from the one you adhere to in real life. If you play a paladin, watching a movie or two where one of the main characters has paladin-like traits can give you a direction for role-play (but you should not use Elizabethan English - That's tacky in the extreme) - Think of John Wayne in most of his roles.
#16 Jun 11 2008 at 2:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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....Quor...buddy...you really need to go back to Group ;)


i had the group liquidated!
#17 Jun 20 2008 at 7:03 AM Rating: Decent
I'm not saying you couldn't take the Dark and emo approach to your death knight character, but really, evil personality doesn't always have to be coupled with seriousness. After all, I think that roleplaying a death knight who takes giddy pleasure in every kill he makes speaking with a sense of dillusional happiness brought by the corruption his mind suffered through to be much more interesting then an amateur rper attempting to roleplay a merciless, cold-hearted loner
(who we have enough of even without the death knight class.) Really how you roleplay it is up to you. You don't need to classify the Death Knight under any personality type since they truly come from all walks of life. Just because your evil doesn't mean you can't smile. :)
#18REDACTED, Posted: Jun 22 2008 at 6:26 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Some ppl said to creat a DK, must have a lv55 chare, and i want to ask it's 50 or 55?
#19 Jun 22 2008 at 6:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Ditronyang wrote:
Some ppl said to creat a DK, must have a lv55 chare, and i want to ask it's 50 or 55?


As with everything in regards to the expansion all information is subject to change, but right now Blizzard is planning that you will need a level 55+ character to unlock the ability to create a Death Knight character.
#20REDACTED, Posted: Jun 22 2008 at 6:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What does this have to do with the subject of the thread?
#21 Jun 23 2008 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
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As far as roleplaying a Death Knight goes it shouldn't really be different from any other class. First you come up with a small back story.

What did your character do before he became a DK ?
What made him tread on the path that eventually led to him becoming one ?
Did he join the Lich King of his own free will or was he tricked or forced into it ?
Why did he leave the service of the Lich King ?

Determine what drives him now that he is free again. Is he regretting what became of him (or what he did in the past for that matter) or does he embrace his "new" role ? I say "new role" because I would assume that most if not all Death Knights haven't always been followers of such a dark and sinister path.

Build the personality step by step till you have an idea of who your DK is and what drives him. Given that so many people will create a DK it seems safe to assume that there will be many like you regardless of what kind of personality you create, but I suppose this can't be helped.

Myself I have only a few vague ideas on my DK should I decide to create one, so I can't give any specific ideas at this point.
#22REDACTED, Posted: Jun 26 2008 at 5:07 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) They should have made it avil to either a warrior or palidan class characters as they fit more of the profile of what DK is plus they alreayd can wear Mail.
#23 Jun 27 2008 at 3:46 AM Rating: Decent
iclabgod wrote:
They should have made it avil to either a warrior or palidan class characters as they fit more of the profile of what DK is plus they alreayd can wear Mail.

Made what available? Roleplaying? That's what this thread is about.

If you are talking about making the Death Knight class available to Warriors and/or Paladins, it is (will be, anyhow when the x-pack is released). All that's needed to unlock the Death Knight class is getting that warrior or pally (or druid, hunter mage, priest, rogue, shaman, or warlock) to level 55. By the way, at that level, warriors and paladins can wear plate, obviously something you didn't know.

Edited, Jun 27th 2008 4:55am by ohmikeghod
#24REDACTED, Posted: Jun 30 2008 at 8:43 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I ment plate to me DK is more of Warrior or Pally Class Upgrade as I stated before. Also I dont see a hunter as DK since they will lose their friend ie pet ablity. Mage hero class as a Summoner since it fits classic theme.
#25 Jul 01 2008 at 4:47 AM Rating: Decent
iclabgod wrote:
I ment plate to me DK is more of Warrior or Pally Class Upgrade as I stated before. Also I dont see a hunter as DK since they will lose their friend ie pet ablity. Mage hero class as a Summoner since it fits classic theme.

Rated down for attempting to sidetrack this thread. Keep to the subject (roleplaying), go to a thread where your comments are about the subject of that thread, or start a new one. Perhaps you need a refresher course in netiquette.
#26 Jul 02 2008 at 7:06 PM Rating: Decent
In my opinion I always viewed death knights as warlocks with swords and a greater obsession with death. Both in my mind are simply cruel, both are ussually evil, both don't care about life itself, though a death knight probably cares less. Now as for the differences, let's look. Deathknights have no souls. They have been ripped from them and put into their swords, but i guess a death knight not from the scourge would have his soul back... so technically I'd a see a death knight being cruel, but not sadistic, just not caring about others. A back story really does vary, but the fact remains if someone becomes a death knight they need to have lost their souls once or possibly still don't have it.. o.o *writes that down as a possible RP idea*, one may consider the idea that a death knight regained his soul and was horrified at what he had done in service to the lich king! I mean think about what happened to arthas... the only true reason he was able to handle doing what he did was he had lost his concience, his soul. I.E. "I have destroyed everything i ever loved... yet I feel no sadness... no remorse... no pity!" If he had regained his soul before he became one with the lich king... dear god think about how much mental trauma he'd go through? He'd probably commit suicide becuase of what he'd done. So basically my take is, you'd rolepaly a death knight in one of three ways or in mix of the the three; emo:Totally incapable and almost on the brink of suicide because of what he's done; Goth: in acceptance of all the crimes he's committed and thus serves for his bretheren once more, but the scars of having his soul ripped fro mhim are evident, thus he is uncaring of almsot everything;Goth-Punk: This is the type Arthas himself was, not sadistic but seems like it as he cares nothing about others and only wishes to accomplish his own goals and support the goals of those greater than him, and yet unlike arthas with the soul returned that alliegence is in flux. A total uncaring cruel bad ***.
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