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#27 May 08 2008 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
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I was a lazy mouse turning/sometimes keyboard turning abilities clicking rogue. It's okay to do that in PVE and get by but realize you're not going to be the best that you can be doing it that way. It's like ppl asking if can use daggers vs swords while raiding...yes, as combat mutilate you can get by but you'll be doing less dps vs combat swords. I guess it depends on what level you want to achieve and what are you comfortable with.

For PVP though, keyboard turning/clicking will most definitely hurt you as a rogue. I finally decided to keybind stuff to my mouse after reading eon's post about keybinding and because I was doing the honor grind in bgs for welfare epics. I kept pushing it off because I wasn't sure how much difference it would make and it was hard to break habits.

I finally decided to just learn and commit myself to it. It wasn't easy and took me a few days to get use to it as I would re-bind stuff to get it just the way I wanted. But you know what? What's good for PVP is also good for PVE. Once I had everything binded properly, I felt a difference when I did instances...it was easier for me to stay on mobs since I wasn't looking for my "mutilate" button to click and taking precious seconds...it was just mouse wheel down and *BAM* mutilate. I stuck on mobs better...I was aware of my surroundings more since I wasn't looking for abilities to click on...I could help the healer out if they pulled healing aggro and the tank wasn't paying attention (or was keyboard turning slowly) and run over and hit blind or kidney shot to save my squishy healer until the tank came over.

Hopefully you will invest the time to learn since it will make you a better overall player...plus if it's good for your rogue, it will be good for your hunter as well. Perhaps your arena rating will now be good or very good vs just decent :)

Good luck!

Edited, May 8th 2008 2:17pm by xlpanda

Edited, May 8th 2008 2:19pm by xlpanda
#28 May 08 2008 at 12:41 PM Rating: Good
If you're currently playing a hunter, how are you doing a jumpshot if you're turning with the keyboard? I'm not saying the lack of that makes you a bad player, but not being able to do that on my hunter would be difficult.

As you've played the hunter longer, it may make more sense to practice the 'mouse-turning' with the hunter and not the new rogue. That way, at the very least you're not trying to incorporate the new skills with a new play style. You would at least be limiting your variables.

Either way, good luck ...
#29 May 08 2008 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
I think a little bit of clicking is ok, like the only moves i click are ShS, Vanish, Stealth, Ghostly Strike, Prep, Premed etc. which works out ok with me, as Hemo and KS and Rupture are bound to my K/B, thats all i need :P
#30 May 08 2008 at 1:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Speedburst wrote:
I think a little bit of clicking is ok, like the only moves i click are ShS, Vanish, Stealth, Ghostly Strike, Prep, Premed etc. which works out ok with me, as Hemo and KS and Rupture are bound to my K/B, thats all i need :P

Clicking delays reaction time, ergo for combat abilities is bad.

I have no problem with people that click stuff in their spell book for stuff like First Aid, but everything else makes me want to punch a baby.
#31 May 08 2008 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
Confessions of a Former Clicker!!!

I used to be a clicker. Smiley: tongue
I thought I was a good player, but I wasn't. Smiley: bah
My revelation came when I decided to take up PVP on my 60 hunter. I had ok gear, was BM spec, and had run ZF and MC with my guild. Fighting other players was soooo different. The speed of the battle was intense and since the players thought for themselves it didn't matter if I tried to control my aggro or used FD. I talked to a guildie and he was surprised to hear that I was a clicker because I did well in our guild raids. He recommended that I convert to using my mouse for movement and using key bindings. I reluctantly agreed and for a while I hated it. The switch was hard but after a few frustrating days of play it started to get a little easier. Now, I think it's the only way to play.

Three big differences I noticed that made me a better PvP player were:
1. I learned how to do a jump shot.
2. I was able to quickly pick up the correct target using a key binding. I was so used to clicking on my target before and often clicked on my pet or the wrong targets.
3. I watch the screen for other players more effectively now because I'm not looking for the action bar spell I want to cast, I simply press my keyboard key without looking away from the screen.

As a hunter I was able to survive as a clicker because I was on a PVE server and hunters are a ranged class. I can't see how a melee class could be very good if they were a clicker. Smiley: grin

#32 May 08 2008 at 2:08 PM Rating: Good
AsylumChr the Malevolent wrote:
If you're currently playing a hunter, how are you doing a jumpshot if you're turning with the keyboard? I'm not saying the lack of that makes you a bad player, but not being able to do that on my hunter would be difficult.

As you've played the hunter longer, it may make more sense to practice the 'mouse-turning' with the hunter and not the new rogue. That way, at the very least you're not trying to incorporate the new skills with a new play style. You would at least be limiting your variables.

Either way, good luck ...


I've actually found that strafing and turning slightly as you do allows you to hit people with your instant cast shots. I've been pondering how I might do it with the mouse actually. Its easier than jump shot. :P I usually don't strafe when using the mouse, maybe I need to figure out how I can add that...
#33 May 08 2008 at 2:32 PM Rating: Decent
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digitalcraft, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
AsylumChr the Malevolent wrote:
If you're currently playing a hunter, how are you doing a jumpshot if you're turning with the keyboard? I'm not saying the lack of that makes you a bad player, but not being able to do that on my hunter would be difficult.

As you've played the hunter longer, it may make more sense to practice the 'mouse-turning' with the hunter and not the new rogue. That way, at the very least you're not trying to incorporate the new skills with a new play style. You would at least be limiting your variables.

Either way, good luck ...


I've actually found that strafing and turning slightly as you do allows you to hit people with your instant cast shots. I've been pondering how I might do it with the mouse actually. Its easier than jump shot. :P I usually don't strafe when using the mouse, maybe I need to figure out how I can add that...

It's easier to do a jump shot.

What I do on jump shots is actually just rock back to one side about 90º and fire off an instant, then turn back.
#34 May 08 2008 at 5:07 PM Rating: Decent
Well, I'm similiar in the going from a hunter to a rogue aspect..
Got a hunter to 70, got bored with it, started a rogue to be new main, had been keyboard turning the entire time on hunter. Started rogue, browsed the rogue area, and found out about mouse turning (had never even considered it, honestly)..Immediately started trying to do it. Quite hard to start out with..Changing 8 years worth of keyboard turning (I played EQ from the beginning, and..yeah, keyboard turning)
Took a few days of trying but now mostly use mouse to move, and find it much easier / faster. On the clicking part..dunno, never clicked much. Normally bind the most used to 1 - 0, and then a couple other spots if I need to.. and then click the non-important stuff (first aid and such)
So, there ..Someone who is newly adjusted from practically the same thing as you. It isn't hard to adjust really, just frustrating in the beginning.
Oh, and something I forgot. I am still working on adjusting my keybindings (have a couple bound to mouse atm, trying to get rid of any binding above 7 (I'd say 6, but I have throwing set to 7 and I like it right there)..Thats the 'hard' one.. adjusting to not hitting a number, but using mousewheel ..

Edited, May 8th 2008 9:16pm by Kelshaniz
#35 May 08 2008 at 11:56 PM Rating: Good
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I think i never was a clicker and mouse turner. Well not in WoW at least.

Maybe it comes from the past when i was playing FPP/FPS games. Actually i can't imagine myself playing with keyboard turning and mouse clicking. When i started my first character - rogue - i was using buttons from "1" to "5" with using my fingers and other buttons i clicked (because it was hard to hit them without moving my hand from "wsad").

I played my rogue for short time when he was 60+lvl. I had a brake from WoW, but when i returned i downloaded few addons, i changed my keybindings (thanks goes to guys, who made very nice topic on this forum about keybindings, really great job). Now i use keys around "wsad" and i just love it. I know that i should bind slightly different my skills, throw few macros and so on, but i'm really happy with what i've got right now.

Well my rogue is pve oriented and i do rarely bgs, and i do not touch arena. So in pve i was told that i just move faster, play better. Guy with way better gear is near me and sometimes behind me in dps meter. On the other hand i know, that with few more keybindings i could probably play better.

Mouse clicking take some time to click skill you want. You must look at you skills bar, mouse point skill and click. If you would have keybindings you would hit button (and you still focus on your opponent or something on your screen and not skill bar).

What is better: typing on keyboard by looking on your keyboard and hit keys or maybe typing without looking on keyboard (it takes a lot of time to learn that ability, but in the end it is worth to do that)? So answer is obvious.

BTW: I started few alts recently. Of course i use keybindings and it is so faster to level them up.
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