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hi, i want to ask something:i am starting a new rogue(i am hunter now) and i am wondering if for rogues the mouse moving is a must?
Now i use arrows for moving and the mouse for click the abilities.I like this and the moving with mouse and the hot keys abilities found it confused.
Is there any rogue who is good pvp,pve and he is still using the traditional method(arrows for moving amd mouse for abilities)?
RThanks

Clicking is even worse than keyboard-turning.

You just think you are decent at pve and pvp with keyboard turning and mouse clicking. And you think wrong. Sad but true.

How you can tell if you are bad or good?
Dunno.In pve many ppl have told my good things.And in pvp i have more wins in arena with my friend hunter(also use the same style).And in 2v2 , 2 hunters with only S1 gear to have more than 1550 rating is decent.And our battleground is vindication, maybe the best pvp battleground in europe.
Also in BGs,honestly i am doing great.
Anyway i believe tht decent is 1450-1600 rating,good is 1600-1800,very good is 1800-2200,and pro is 2200 +

But you may be a good pvp player.i just want to be decent.what i am loosing in speed from fingers ,i get it from speed of my mind..:)(we allways thinking quicker than you guys)....
I did it with my hunter and my quetion is: if it is possible to do it again with rogue?or rogues especially need the mouse keybinding moving more than every other class?

Not only is it a requirement to turn with your mouse to be decent as a rogue, but you also have to used improved key bindings if you want to be any good.

It's actually quite simple. Realize how many buttons you have on you mouse. Most probably (not counting left click and right click) 2 thumb buttons and a wheel (wheel up, wheel down, click wheel). That's about 4-5 "buttons". And you can combine those with keys, such as ALT and SHIFT, which multiplis the 4-5 "buttons" to about 12-15 combinations.

Those are 12-15 combinations which you can bind to your more frequent attacks, racials, and other skills.

Then rest your left hand where it should be on your keyboard (for me it is on the ASDF row since I am used to type). Check which keys you can easily reach without moving from this position, and use these keys to bind the remaining skills that you will use (you can still combine with ALT or SHIFT, so you have plenty of combinations).

Result is:
1. your left hand is mostly used to go ahead and backwards or sideways (keyboard),
2. you turn with your right hand (mouse),
3. while you do 1. and 2. above, you can still use your buttons (mostly the mouse buttons) which allows you to be very mobile AND use whatever ability you need.

It takes about 1 hour to think and configure the above, then a few hours for your brain to adjust and get new reflexes, but you won't regret.

nostra

and how long it takes to adjust?let say i play 1 hour daily..1 or 2 months or maybe more?

Coming from a guy who pretended:



ROLF!!!!

Not to mention that you should slow down your mind a bit, man, cause right know, it's so fast that you fly over words without reading:



nostra

Edited, May 8th 2008 4:55pm by nostraaa

Thats from the guild leader of Nihilum, an *** worthy of serving under Theo.

To the OP,
you NEED mouse as a PVP mutilate rogue. No exceptions.

you can get away with it if you have one of those touchpads on your laptop if your combat spec, but you seriously shouldnt try to pvp w/out a mouse. the ability to move will help prevent hits, and when you put up evasion you need to keep the enemy in front of you (since evasion doesnt dodge hits to the back), so a mouse is important here too.

Hey guys, am a tank at heart but loving the rogue action...

have a vx-revolution, where i keybind one of the keys to numlock... but where a tank will stand still and tank, rogues require some getting used to.

got a question about mouse moving... you guys refering to the ability to turn quickly via mouse click and move? or you use mouse to straffe as well as move foward?

if so, then do you re-bind wsad keys?

thanks!

That's not true.


A long long long long long long long time ago I was a clicker and keyboard turner. I thought I was doing pretty good. Joined a guild went along just fine. I was talking to one of the leaders one day and mentioned I was a keyboard turner & clicker. They were shocked at how good I was. However they strongly advised me to change my ways. I eventually set up keybinds etc and tried getting into it. It was very hard. My gameplay went down a lot. Naturally I wanted to resort back to my old ways. It was getting frustrating, I died a lot and it was confusing at times. I kept at it because I knew it would improve my game. It didn't take too long (more than a day though) and it started to feel natural. I quickly picked up where I left off. But it didn't stop there. My gameplay speed and abilities continued to improve. I was loving it. In the end it improved my game by at least x10.

Trust me, I've been on both sides. I've experienced first hand what it's like. Make the change. It does make a huge difference.

Its not as big a deal as people claim, but many people here live in a black and white, 'UR DOIN IT RITE/UR DOIN IT WRONG' world, where things have no degrees inbetween.

The keyboard turning thing isn't a huge deal in PvE, AS LONG AS you use strafe graciously. The reason people don't like keyboard turning is because you turn slow. With strafe, you don't need to turn nearly as much and still be facing the mob enough for combat.

PvP, its a bit more important. In BGs, its usually not a huge deal unless you're going 1v1 against someone, but BGs you're usually fighting against lower level PvPers anyways(not always!) (and before you say it Theo, just because a Porsche is a really cool car, it doesn't mean a Hyundai isn't also a car!)


The ability clicking is a bit more of a handicap. Rogues have to be able to do certain things with quick reaction time. For your normal SS, SnD, etc, it won't make a difference, but if you want to be a good rogue, you need that kick/gouge/vanish/blind etc button right there.



In summary, PvE, you probably will be viable keyboard turning and clicking, but you could be a lot more skillful if you learned to do it the opposite. Its an area that a bit of practice could give you good results.

In PvP, it just depends how serious you want to get about it. PvP is a case of optimal or lose, so think about doing every little improvement you can.



oh and P.S. I find its more important for my hunter to use the mouse to move and keys for abilities than my rogue. :P

Edited, May 8th 2008 9:58am by digitalcraft