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#1 May 07 2008 at 12:49 AM Rating: Decent
quick question, does the improved consc aura talent mean the consescration spell? the aoe you lay on the ground? theres no aura after the spell so im not sure.

tryin to whittle down the points in prot so i can put 10 in ret for benedition and parry
#2 May 07 2008 at 12:53 AM Rating: Good
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WowWiki wrote:
Increases the effect of your Concentration Aura and reduces the duration of any Silence or Interrupt effects used against an affected group member. The duration reduction does not stack with any other effects.


Nothing in there about any affect to the Consecration spell.
#3 May 07 2008 at 1:22 AM Rating: Good
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I just had to lol at this >.<
#4 May 07 2008 at 3:59 AM Rating: Good
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No aura with Consecration spell, Ken. Improved Concentration aura, exactly as posted by Kyuska.

The bigger question is 'Is this talent worth it?' I currently do not have it, and asked on another forum if it's any good. I got answers ranging from 'It's awful, don't waste the points' to 'It's indispensable, get it'. What do you guys think? (Holy Paladin, PvE, not PvP, by the way)
#5 May 07 2008 at 4:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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meagherly wrote:
No aura with Consecration spell, Ken. Improved Concentration aura, exactly as posted by Kyuska.

The bigger question is 'Is this talent worth it?' I currently do not have it, and asked on another forum if it's any good. I got answers ranging from 'It's awful, don't waste the points' to 'It's indispensable, get it'. What do you guys think? (Holy Paladin, PvE, not PvP, by the way)


PvP: Completely invaluable.

PvE: Good on some fights, useless on others. Anywhere you're going to see silences, it's quite handy.
#6 May 07 2008 at 4:19 AM Rating: Good
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Get it, you might as well. Some fights like malacrass and such feature alot of raid damage, and you and your fellow healers will need it to reduce spell pushback. Besides, it's probably the most useful aura for a healer, unless it's a resistance heavy fight.
#7 May 07 2008 at 4:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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meagherly wrote:

The bigger question is 'Is this talent worth it?' I currently do not have it, and asked on another forum if it's any good. I got answers ranging from 'It's awful, don't waste the points' to 'It's indispensable, get it'. What do you guys think? (Holy Paladin, PvE, not PvP, by the way)


My vote is "indispensable" as well. Holy Pally, PvE, meager PvP.

When soloing, it allows for AOE grinding, much more effectively than having Ret Aura up. A lot of mobs need to bang on you if any of them are to successfully interrupt a Flash of Light.

In raids, the clothies I'm grouped with often howl for Devotion Aura, preferably Improved Devotion Aura, but my argument is that if they'd just stop stealing aggro from the tank, they wouldn't be getting hit by melee. They like feeling the pseudo-security that that ~5% mitigation provides them. Improved Concentration Aura on the other hand won't win you any friends. The casters will get silenced and they'll shriek over vent "I'M SILENCED!!! oh wait, no I'm not" and just assume they had some magic silence-halving resistance that had absolutely nothing to do with the aura the pally has up. I don't think many can explain why the casters in one raid group aren't silenced while those in the other groups are.

In 5v5 and BGs, it's my default aura. There are just too many Horde with a silence ability. You can't afford to have the heals stop for longer than they have to.

#8 May 07 2008 at 5:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I assume you are a Prot Pally. If so, Imp Conc Aura will not be very useful to yourself in most tanking situations (most spells you cast are instant, and silencing mobs are few and far between).

However, Parry is critical for a tank. So, in my opinion, Parry >>>>> Imp Conc Aura.

EDIT - as others have mentioned, if you are planning to mostly PvP, then Imp Conc Arua is REQUIRED. Most of my post was designated toward PvE tanking.

Edited, May 7th 2008 9:28am by YJMark
#9 May 07 2008 at 7:09 AM Rating: Good
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YJMark wrote:
I assume you are a Prot Pally. If so, Imp Conc Aura will not be very useful to yourself in most tanking situations (most spells you cast are instant, and silencing mobs are few and far between).

However, Parry is critical for a tank. So, in my opinion, Parry >>>>> Imp Conc Aura.

EDIT - as others have mentioned, if you are planning to mostly PvP, then Imp Conc Arua is REQUIRED. Most of my post was designated toward PvE tanking.

Edited, May 7th 2008 9:28am by YJMark


You know, that's a good point. For prot, it's a decent talent in instances and a rather good one for soloing.. I was thinking holy for some reason.

Edited, May 7th 2008 9:27am by Poldaran
#10 May 07 2008 at 8:58 AM Rating: Good
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For prot improved concentration aura is ok and sometimes provides utility. The problem is that there are so many other really good and necessary talents that tanks don't take it.
#11 May 07 2008 at 1:51 PM Rating: Good
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I wouldn't take it for Protection. Tanking or grinding.

Healing (if any) comes from Seal/Judgement of Light while grinding -- If you HAVE to cast a spell/bandage you should be bubbling. No Block/Dodge/Parry while casting will destroy all that HP you just healed.

Go for parry.
#12 May 07 2008 at 1:53 PM Rating: Good
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doesnt it also reduce the duration of silencing effects? this could still be useful to a protadin for certain situations. I wouldnt take it though :|
#13 May 07 2008 at 6:34 PM Rating: Decent
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HoyadinFTW wrote:
When soloing, it allows for AOE grinding, much more effectively than having Ret Aura up.


You realize that anyone with Spiritual Focus can already do this without the talent, yes? So getting it to make your own heals resist pushback is pretty pointless. Unless you are Prot or Ret where you'll be using some other Aura anyway, thus have to spend a GCD to swap Auras for a chance to get a heal off. Ret should kill fast enough usually and Prot just doesn't die, so still not a great advantage to have. The spell pushback resist DOES help other classes though, so it's a nice talent for group play.

And there's the reduction to silence effects. That imo would be the reason to take this talent. Kind of like the Sacred Duty talent: you take it for the stamina, but the other effects are gravy on the side for "just in case" scenarios.

That said as a tank there really aren't enough points to make picking this up worthwhile, not to mention that your other Auras will be much better suited to what you are doing. As Ret ... You'd already be sacrificing too much, again imo, to get that far anyway. I wouldn't take it in a Ret build at all. And as Holy, take it for PvP builds. PvE, if you want go for it, but I'm not sure it's a "must-have" most of the time.
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