Leveling; dual-wield vs. two-handerFollow

Yes slam resets your swing timer but thats not my point.

If your swing timer is 3.6 (no flurry) you get a ~6.5 seconds dps cycle like this.

White 0 seconds
Slam .5 seconds
White 4.1 seconds
Slam 4.6 seconds
Nothing 6.5 seconds

But if you have lots of excess rage with slow swing timer you could go

White 0 seconds
Slam .5 seconds (during global cooldown you realize you have tons of rage)
Slam 2 seconds
Slam 3.5 seconds
Slam 5 seconds
Slam 6.5 seconds



That a 2 more slam's worth of dmg in your ~6.5 second dps cycle.

With 5/5 flurry though with a 3.6 speed weapon (assuming flurry is procced) your speed is 2.7

White 0 seconds
Slam .5 seconds
White 3.2 seconds
Slam 3.7 seconds
White 6.4 seconds
Slam 6.9 seconds


You end up with roughly the same dmg output as slam spam save you still have excess rage to use on other abilities.

So like I said slam spam only robs you of dmg if your swing timer is very quick, aka 5/5 flurry. My mind was still thinking raid dps cycles where you don't get 5/5 flurry.


Editted to correct stupid mistake.

Edited, May 9th 2008 1:41pm by Jimpadan

Woah, it takes a while to get used to the new playstyle. Stupid as I am, I went out and fought a healer mob with my new axe, only to have the ******* heal itself before I could get in a Pummel (because I was in Battle Stance, and yes, I do have a Zerker Stance -> Pummel/SBash macro). Had to run away from it eventually because my axe skill was craptastic.

Now it's looking better though and I'm critting a lot. I'm not sure if the numbers are bigger, though. While dual-wielding I'd generate rage so fast I almost always had Whirlwind and Bloodthirst on cooldown (along with Berserker Rage - I love that skill). Bloodthirst ignores weapon damage, so the damage there is the same. I think I'm killing stuff faster than when I was using my Sword of Omen and dagger combo. Average kill time is 15 seconds, because I've noticed Charge blinks just as I'm ready to pull another mob.

It's definitely a different playstyle. Not as action paced as dual-wielding, that's for sure. Waiting for the rage to generate so I can start weaving in Slam is a tad boring, but once I have the rage, things die fast. Still, a Slam plus white crit is roughly the same damage as a Bloodthirst crit and Whirlwind hit with dual-wield weapons. Maybe the 2H Fury build does more of a difference at higher levels? Maybe I should get a weapon that isn't a level 44 greenie?

Unlike my Hunter's Steady Shot, Slam resets the swing timer (whereas Steady Shot doesn't, but Auto Shot won't fire until Steady Shot has loaded). I've clipped a couple of auto swings, but I'm learning.

I was expecting more, though. I thought my dual-wield method was way inefficient, but it doesn't appear to have been the case.

Level 47 and a bit now. The axe is a level 44 green one "of strength" so it's not exactly awesome.

Blues above level 20 cost 40+ gold, though. It's my main character on that realm and he's got 11g to his name at the moment.

I liked having MS down to 31 points then put the rest into fury. I went fury dual weild from 61-65 when I got the axes from Thrall but for the most part I thought 2H was the win while leveling.

Also KT is a nubthunking dip thunker who does not know how to play. I challenge him to a duel!

(Go 10k go) :D

Warriors are not the best for dueling. Healers can outlast us. Some classes can kite us.

Warriors force multiply with a healer ftw.

Just remember - you will never win in a duel against your wife. That is one of the laws of physics.

i have to admit, im pretty skeptical about any of your advice in this thread now. :P

I'm posting here in replies to mazra's reply to a similair thread. I am soloing. Strictly soloing. And I'm so confused on what to do. 2h or DW. DW or 2h. Is there a link to a build I can use while leveling so I can learn this class a bit better. I am currently using No addons. Don't know were to go or how to use them...anyways...I'm currently using a sword and board for the added defense. I kill slower but can take on more mobs at one time. I love my warrior. But he's only level 9 almost 10....defense stance here i come.

I may be a burden in certain posts but I'm a learnaholic. I am a quick learner. Just need some helpful advice. Using a tiger shield and Copper Longsword of str or something like that. Even took up a gun cause i think that is cool. You can look at my toon if you like. Name is Roriken. Any help or advice would be appreciated. And thanks mazra for linking me the way here. :D

Edit: Had to correct mazra's name. I put 2 z's instead of one.

Edited, May 16th 2008 3:03pm by Souliken

read through this thread and the FAQ and you should be A-OK. i listed some builds.