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Actually this question is in my mind for quite a while, but can't seem to find the answer. What is the spell haste rating required to reduce your GCD to 1 second?
The basic formula goes as such spell haste rating=(1570*((base cast time/new cast time)-1).
That means if you want a 1 sec GCD it would be 1570*((1.5/1)-1)=1570*.5 or roughly 785.
Hope that helps.
That means if you want a 1 sec GCD it would be 1570*((1.5/1)-1)=1570*.5 or roughly 785.
Hope that helps.
Thanks for the info
* That's crazy number to get :p
* That's crazy number to get :p
Yea, thats unreal. Is that even possible, my haste set is pretty damn full and i dont break 300. Must require trinkets/cooldowns.
You need Bloodlust and a few procs, or Bloodlust, IV, and a little haste to do it.
If you have blood lust up since haste is multiplicative you will need 1.5/1.3 or 15% haste. This will require 15.7*15.4 or roughly 242. A more easily attainable number but still fairly difficult.
Twirdman wrote:
If you have blood lust up since haste is multiplicative you will need 1.5/1.3 or 15% haste. This will require 15.7*15.4 or roughly 242. A more easily attainable number but still fairly difficult.
Yeah, totally bro.
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Twirdman wrote:
If you have blood lust up since haste is multiplicative you will need 1.5/1.3 or 15% haste. This will require 15.7*15.4 or roughly 242. A more easily attainable number but still fairly difficult.
Yeah, totally bro.
Wow I hadn't looked at all the S4 stuff that dagger is ridiculous, but I maintain still difficult to get and unfortunately has no spell damage. Either way I wouldn't mind having it.
How would this dagger measure up in raids?
Litheablion wrote:
How would this dagger measure up in raids?
It would probably do alright, but I just can't see giving up all that DPM from a current weapon. Though there are situational fights where it would be awesometacular since they're short and mana isn't an issue.
Not assuming mana efficiency now, would it give more raw DPS then say, Tempest of chaos or Scryers blade of focus?
Litheablion wrote:
Not assuming mana efficiency now, would it give more raw DPS then say, Tempest of chaos or Scryers blade of focus?
More than Scryer's Blade? Yeah, probably. Tempest? Not sure, to be honest. Though I'm leaning towards Tempest in that fight.
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Litheablion wrote:
Not assuming mana efficiency now, would it give more raw DPS then say, Tempest of chaos or Scryers blade of focus?
More than Scryer's Blade? Yeah, probably. Tempest? Not sure, to be honest. Though I'm leaning towards Tempest in that fight.
Only fight I can think of that it would work well in is like Shade of Akama that it only lasts for 30 seconds so you can blow absolutely everything with no chance to pull aggro from the start.
The thing about Spellhaste is that it is multiplicative with +dmg instead of additive. When you have 1300 +dmg, adding another 100 or so is a small increase, but if you can get ahold of Spellhaste it multiplies with all the +dmg you already have. I can't be ***** to set up yet another theorycraft spreadsheet to find out, but there will be an ideal ratio between damage and haste that we should look into calculating.
~sins
~sins
Sinstralis wrote:
The thing about Spellhaste is that it is multiplicative with +dmg instead of additive. When you have 1300 +dmg, adding another 100 or so is a small increase, but if you can get ahold of Spellhaste it multiplies with all the +dmg you already have. I can't be ***** to set up yet another theorycraft spreadsheet to find out, but there will be an ideal ratio between damage and haste that we should look into calculating.
~sins
~sins
Right, but I have a feeling that giving up that much damage on a weapon has to be detrimental overall.
Haste is iffy for us mages, great yes, but its a lot of dmg to be sacrifcing. And our +dmg is important. I can see Ele Shammy's and Spriests going crazy for a weapon like that were haste scales much better for them.
CalenciaBlue wrote:
Haste is iffy for us mages, great yes, but its a lot of dmg to be sacrifcing. And our +dmg is important. I can see Ele Shammy's and Spriests going crazy for a weapon like that were haste scales much better for them.
Are you serious? Haste is better for mages than possibly every other class, the one exception possibly being elemental shammies with 4/1 rotations. And compared to how good it is for... well, every other caster, haste is *horrible* for spriests. barley better than +dmg, instead of the freaking 40% better that other casters get.
Plus, there's the possibility of being in full Sunwell gear and haste-stacking your way to permanent rolling Ignites O_o
Haste is still being discovered across the board i feel. But Before the Sunwell gear were haste comes with crit/hit stats. Haste for mages is nice. But not always the wisest stat to stack since your losing crit/hit. at least for fire mages, scales better with frost imo.
could be play style. But from what i've read, seen at theory/gear crafters and told from a spriest i raid with who does 200-300more dps than the other 2. Haste is what spriests are looking for.
but to eache's own.
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haste is *horrible* for spriests.
could be play style. But from what i've read, seen at theory/gear crafters and told from a spriest i raid with who does 200-300more dps than the other 2. Haste is what spriests are looking for.
but to eache's own.
lsfreak wrote:
CalenciaBlue wrote:
Haste is iffy for us mages, great yes, but its a lot of dmg to be sacrifcing. And our +dmg is important. I can see Ele Shammy's and Spriests going crazy for a weapon like that were haste scales much better for them.
Are you serious? Haste is better for mages than possibly every other class, the one exception possibly being elemental shammies with 4/1 rotations. And compared to how good it is for... well, every other caster, haste is *horrible* for spriests. barley better than +dmg, instead of the freaking 40% better that other casters get.
Plus, there's the possibility of being in full Sunwell gear and haste-stacking your way to permanent rolling Ignites O_o
haste isn't horrible for spriests as it decreases the cast time through their mindflay, mindblast and time to put up VT. It isn't as good as a class that uses almost all cast-time spells, but it ns't horrible for spriests.
It's horrible in comparison. Dmg:haste ratios for spriests at 1400dmg is about 1:1, whereas a mage or lock is more about 1.4:1.
lsfreak wrote:
CalenciaBlue wrote:
Haste is iffy for us mages, great yes, but its a lot of dmg to be sacrifcing. And our +dmg is important. I can see Ele Shammy's and Spriests going crazy for a weapon like that were haste scales much better for them.
Are you serious? Haste is better for mages than possibly every other class, the one exception possibly being elemental shammies with 4/1 rotations. And compared to how good it is for... well, every other caster, haste is *horrible* for spriests. barley better than +dmg, instead of the freaking 40% better that other casters get.
Plus, there's the possibility of being in full Sunwell gear and haste-stacking your way to permanent rolling Ignites O_o
Haste is better for us than Shadowpriests in a way, but because we scale better overall with hit (we need more of it) and crit, haste is an important secondary stat for them despite this. It is certainly not horrible for them. But, of course, seeing as in this case the trade off is not hit or crit for spellhaste but spelldamage it sucks.
The whole "new ignite rolling" thing is really iffy in timing (fireball needs to take EXACTLY 2 seconds to cast). Gaining damage from igntes rolling like this is a bug, Blizzard doesn't want it there. Maybe the nature of the bug will stop it being fixed.
It's a bug, but as far as I remember Blizz hasn't said anything about it. Plus it's not anywhere near as big a bug as, for example, MSFD was, or pre-BC rolling Ignites. And you need to gear specifically to set up the roll (which means full Sunwell gear, possibly with full Drums rotations, or only during IV+Skull/BL).
(And as a side note, it's more around 2.1sec, 2sec casts are too fast).
(And as a side note, it's more around 2.1sec, 2sec casts are too fast).
I'm curious about this whole thing you guys are talking about with the ignites rolling at certain speeds.
What happens exactly?
What happens exactly?
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
I'm curious about this whole thing you guys are talking about with the ignites rolling at certain speeds.
What happens exactly?
What happens exactly?
If you crit at the same time as ignite ticks then the damage of that ignite tick is dealt to the target and added to the total DoT damage dealt over the 4 seconds the new ignite debuff runs for.
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Plus it's not anywhere near as big a bug as, for example, MSFD was, or pre-BC rolling ignites
Oh you mean the rolling ignites that were in the game since release and didn't get removed until after Naxxramas was released? Those rolling ignites?
Not even close to a bug, was removed due to the mass complaining about mages putting out insane damage. It didn't become that noticeable until AQ/Naxx due to MC and BWL being heavy on fire resist, so there were a lot more raiding frost mages than fire.
Then AQ and Naxx came about, and mages were really getting a lot of +dmg and +crit stacked and feeding off of eachother in raids. He who steals the ignite tic wins the dmg meter and all that.
Took them even longer to change ISB to the individual, god forbid mages get a synergy amongst themselves while other classes get it between eachother.
fascist pigs.
Warlord Filterspawn wrote:
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Plus it's not anywhere near as big a bug as, for example, MSFD was, or pre-BC rolling ignites
Oh you mean the rolling ignites that were in the game since release and didn't get removed until after Naxxramas was released? Those rolling ignites?
Not even close to a bug, was removed due to the mass complaining about mages putting out insane damage. It didn't become that noticeable until AQ/Naxx due to MC and BWL being heavy on fire resist, so there were a lot more raiding frost mages than fire.
Then AQ and Naxx came about, and mages were really getting a lot of +dmg and +crit stacked and feeding off of eachother in raids. He who steals the ignite tic wins the dmg meter and all that.
Took them even longer to change ISB to the individual, god forbid mages get a synergy amongst themselves while other classes get it between eachother.
fascist pigs.
I'll put up 3 stacks of imp scorch, you do the other 2, kk?
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