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The best PvP trinkets still come from PvE. There is a PvP trinket available to benefit every spec type, but's the single most expensive thing you can buy with honor, I believe, and most of the time there are easily comparable or better ones to pick up through instancing. Do a little research on your own time to find the stats you're looking for and then run the required content 'til you get the drop.

The best PvP cloaks are bought with Badges of Justice which you get from running heroics or raids from Kara on. If you really want it you're going to have to build yourself a non-crap PvE set and do some of the harder content in the game.


S1 gear is "easy" enough to acquire in that it's not a random drop so you're guaranteed to get it as long as you put forth the required effort, but it'll still take a considerable grind. Also, S1-2 gear is pretty crappy for Retadins, whereas your S3 is excellent. I would keep the blue bought set since the S1 gear is only a marginal upgrade over it, grind out all the Vindicator gear to compliment it, and then start working on the S3 pieces in the arena, through mercy points if necessary.


I'm a very casual player and I can grind out an honor piece in two or three nights.


There are trinkets and rings, and the rings at least are very good, though they lack hit so make sure you can get it elsewhere.


Quite a while if all you have on is mostly PvP gear since most of it is garbage for PvE except for the S3 pieces. Until you get those you're going to have to go out of your way to acquire PvE-oriented gear through all the rep vendors around Outland and good, old fashioned instance runs.


Ret is highly discriminated against because it's naturally inclined to do much poorer DPS than most of the other DPS specs available to other classes. You can't afford to have "filler-type gear" on and expect to be anything more than a filler party member or run any significant PvE content.


See above. You really don't have the luxery of being picky right now. Solo with the sword if you want, but throw the axe on any time you're in a party.

Edited, May 3rd 2008 11:34am by Gaudion

Honestly, I would hold out for the cloak. Like I said, they're the absolute best available for PvP. I tend to prioritize things that I know I won't/can't replace for quite some time, but if the other items are bigger upgrades for you, well... It's a call you'll have to make.


I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, so hopefully someone else in here can come in and give you a hand. Having not played my Pally or subsequently cared about plate DPS gear in quite some time, I'm afraid my knowledge of specific Ret gear is lacking at the moment.

This conversation makes me wonder. With S4 starting soon and S2 being available for honor, will S1 be available at, say, revered reputation with the same factions you can get the PVP blues from?

I'm sure this would be terribly OP, but I personally would love to see it for a few reasons. I could just fill in so many gear gaps in my shaman's 2 PVE DPS sets as well as having a decent starter set for healing with my pally.

Edit: Oh, and filling out my rogue's S1 set for PVP.

Edited, May 3rd 2008 2:05pm by Bigdaddyjug

I would say the far more likely outcome is that S1 will simply be available for less honor from the honor vendors, much like Veteran's compared to Vidicator's, etc.

S1 Gear is suppose to disapear when S4 hits. Rep venders will still have the same blue pvp gear. and S1 will go away. much like the pvp gear before S1 also disapeared.

Edit: by disapear i mean, made "unavailable".

Edited, May 5th 2008 4:56pm by RuenBahamut

Quite so. I would be dumbfounded if they did away with S1 altogether.

not exactly, the S2 skinned PvP gear is available. the set gear that was out along with it, is gone.

im talking about the Blood Red and Black lvl 70 PvP gear. if you know of a place to aquire it, please! let me know! i want that set and im so close to breaking down and buying the lvl 60 pvp gear instead(and wasting 25 badges on the Cloak to go with it!).

Sort of related question.

I have my (currently) prot paladin which levelled as holy. I've been collecting a bit of ret gear on the side (800 AP - woot) and was wondering if for questing purposes it would be better to grind in my spell damage gear (1h + shield, with Holy Shield, SoR and Cons to actually kill anything with) or if I should stick on my ret gear for it (currently have Warmaul of Infused Light)?

Having not used a 2-hander since I got to outlands and started stacking spell damage gear I'm really not sure if the auto-attack route would be better than my current 'let mobs beat themselves to death on me' approach.

Edited, May 7th 2008 10:42am by Tynuv

the rep ones are the kinda red D3 skinned pvp gear sets.

before S1 was pushed to honor venders. you could buy sets that the blood knights wear in places like Hala, looks like the epic lvl 60 pvp gear.

ive checked hala vender in nagrand, they only sell lvl 66 pvp pants. real disapointing.

I believe so.


Also, do you look pink? I thought it was colored a bit differently. More of an orange.

The confusion around this topic comes from the fact that for Alliance, the old set (Grand Marshall's) is gold and has a griffin on one shoulder, you're describing the Horde's High Warlord set, which is completely gone.


Now, my question: You can currently buy S1 gear with T4 tokens, is that vendor going away in S4....as in the set is gone for good, or will he stay where he is?