Have looked through the FAQ and Gryph's awesome druid resources links. Now I'm hoping for some personal opinions/guidance from those of you with experience, because I don't want to be the *** everyone hates.
I'll never raid, and my druid is 70, so apart from the occasional trip out to farm I don't do much with her. I thought it might be fun to do some BG's for honor and maybe collect some gear. The problem: I suck at PVP. I mean, I suck like you read about. And I don't enjoy melee PVP combat - this will sound crazy to anyone who hasn't experienced it, but all that up close twitching and moving and constant screen flickering is actually a migraine trigger for me (the reason I had to give up console games lo these many years ago, if you can believe it).
But, I do very much enjoy healing, and nobody hates a healer in a battleground, right? So I thought that might be a good thing for me to try. So my questions:
1. Should I try the same build the sticky suggests for Arena healers, or is there something more suitable for BG's you recommend?
2. Will a set of greens/blues from the AH be okay to start with? I haven't got any decent healing gear right now.
3. Bearing in mind I have next to no BG experience at all, should I really bother with this at 70? Or is the learning curve going to be too steep?
4. Stand in the back, HOT everyone, cast bigger heals on whoever needs it, cut and run when you get attacked. Is that the basic strategy? Or should I just pop bear when I get hit and hope I can last long enough for someone to come to my defense? I'm assuming I won't be able to actually fight, say, a geared up rogue with a Resto spec. (ETA: No offense intended to the dozens of good Resto druids who do just that every day. I only meant "I" as in "me" - remember how I said I suck at PVP. :) )
5. Is there even a worthwhile amount of honor to be gained from healing (versus actually getting kills)? I don't mind doing some for the healing practice anyway, but I don't want to spend a lot of time if there will be virtually no rewards.
Thanks for your advice!
Edited, May 1st 2008 7:26pm by teacake
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1. For Battlegrounds, I strongly recommend the PvP oriented Restokin build. You'll be a very valuable addition to any group with half a brain. Stick you with a DPS class like a Warlock, or Warrior, and you could pretty much solo the opposing team. Inbetween stacking HoTs on the DPS player, you can either stay in Bear form to avoid focus fire, or stay in the background and use Insect Swarm and Wrath spam to really mess up the enemy.
2. I personally went out and did some instances until I became Honored with all the needed factions for the blue PvP gear. You need to be Honored with The Sha'tar, Honor Hold/Thrallmar, Cenarion Expedition, Lower City and Keepers of Time. Did I forget any? The set will give you 134 resilience, which isn't a lot, but a decent start. Depending on your remaining gear, you should be able to get around 1,000 +healing and +50 mp5 which will be increased by the various talents, making you a mp5 monster.
3. The Battlegrounds are fairly easy to learn how to perform well in. Avoid being singled out too fast, heal as many team mates as possible (focus healing on the stronger ones) and survive for as long as possible. Be prepared to get slaughtered a lot, though. Most people focus fire on the healers (unless you're up against the Alliance by chance).
4. Yes, pretty much. With a Restokin build, you also have a decent amount of offensive spells at your disposal. 1,000 +healing should net you around 400 +damage, which isn't a lot either, but a decent amount. Insect Swarm really pisses off melee classes, not to mention it's a pretty nasty DoT spell which can only be removed by poison-cleansing effects, I believe. And don't assume you're a free kill as a Restokin either. Slap some HoTs on yourself, switch to Bear form and watch the Rogue kill himself on your Thorns buff. I kid you not. Of course, it's a little hard with a low resilience rating, but as a Feral Druid I absolutely hated going up against Resto Druids, simply because they could outlast my damage with their healing and regenerate the mana faster than they could spend it.
5. When you heal someone, you are put on the "threat list" of everyone attacking that target. So if Warrior is taking a beating from two Rogues and you heal him, if the Warrior kills those two Rogues, you get a share of the honor and the kills, of course. This is why healing in defense is sometimes a nice way to rake in honor, because by healing one target, you can get a butt load of kills (everyone attacking the target you're healing).
I should probably mention that the S1 gear is great, but they'll be releasing the next season soon, so save your honor for the S2 gear which will become available by then.
And welcome to the funjoy of being a BG monkey.
Edited, May 2nd 2008 1:35am by Mazra
2. I personally went out and did some instances until I became Honored with all the needed factions for the blue PvP gear. You need to be Honored with The Sha'tar, Honor Hold/Thrallmar, Cenarion Expedition, Lower City and Keepers of Time. Did I forget any? The set will give you 134 resilience, which isn't a lot, but a decent start. Depending on your remaining gear, you should be able to get around 1,000 +healing and +50 mp5 which will be increased by the various talents, making you a mp5 monster.
3. The Battlegrounds are fairly easy to learn how to perform well in. Avoid being singled out too fast, heal as many team mates as possible (focus healing on the stronger ones) and survive for as long as possible. Be prepared to get slaughtered a lot, though. Most people focus fire on the healers (unless you're up against the Alliance by chance).
4. Yes, pretty much. With a Restokin build, you also have a decent amount of offensive spells at your disposal. 1,000 +healing should net you around 400 +damage, which isn't a lot either, but a decent amount. Insect Swarm really pisses off melee classes, not to mention it's a pretty nasty DoT spell which can only be removed by poison-cleansing effects, I believe. And don't assume you're a free kill as a Restokin either. Slap some HoTs on yourself, switch to Bear form and watch the Rogue kill himself on your Thorns buff. I kid you not. Of course, it's a little hard with a low resilience rating, but as a Feral Druid I absolutely hated going up against Resto Druids, simply because they could outlast my damage with their healing and regenerate the mana faster than they could spend it.
5. When you heal someone, you are put on the "threat list" of everyone attacking that target. So if Warrior is taking a beating from two Rogues and you heal him, if the Warrior kills those two Rogues, you get a share of the honor and the kills, of course. This is why healing in defense is sometimes a nice way to rake in honor, because by healing one target, you can get a butt load of kills (everyone attacking the target you're healing).
I should probably mention that the S1 gear is great, but they'll be releasing the next season soon, so save your honor for the S2 gear which will become available by then.
And welcome to the funjoy of being a BG monkey.
Edited, May 2nd 2008 1:35am by Mazra
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Maz, you are the ruliest. You're a pancake breakfast with a side of bacon. Seriously. Thanks a ton, this will be great to get me started. I think PVP in general probably makes you a better player, with things moving so much faster, so I look forward to learning. :)
most of what maz says is right, with the exception of the honor split for healers. now you dont even have to do a damn thing to the target or anyone on the target. you just need to be in range when it dies and you get a share. this is because all honor is split evenly between group members. so even if someone kills an enemy under you while you quietly wait for a tower to cap, youll still get the honor, even if you dont so much as move an inch.
also, personally, id prefer the swiftmend build for pvp, possibly with tree of life in there. but thats me; i pvp with a group of people i trust (and will back me up) and i trust myself in pvp situations to know when and what to do for best effect. you dont have the experience i do, so if you decided to not go restokin, id just grab swiftmend and natural perfection and stick the rest in balance.
also, personally, id prefer the swiftmend build for pvp, possibly with tree of life in there. but thats me; i pvp with a group of people i trust (and will back me up) and i trust myself in pvp situations to know when and what to do for best effect. you dont have the experience i do, so if you decided to not go restokin, id just grab swiftmend and natural perfection and stick the rest in balance.
Healing in BG's is a lot of fun. Even feral spec, I chuck on my healing gear (all PvE, no resil) and run around healing everybody. It is a wonderful feeling to join a battle and a few minutes later realise that nobody in range of you has died and there are enemey corpses everywhere.
I often top the healing meter as feral and usually end up near the top of the honorable kills list too. Just make sure you place yourself where the action is and be prepared to die a bit :)
I often top the healing meter as feral and usually end up near the top of the honorable kills list too. Just make sure you place yourself where the action is and be prepared to die a bit :)
I'll have to agree on the honor thing - sometimes you get random honor from someone killing something around. You don't have to do anything. Geared healers get the most honor in Battlegrounds because they frigging won't die. Which is good when you're the healer :P
Also, what RareBeast said. I do that all the time when I feel like a change in play style, I'll just take my nice new blue PvP healing set even though I'm feral, and it's a huge help to the team even though it might not be optimal.
These days I go as feral because I'm starting to get the hang of it and actually kill thing - it's fun! - but I don't forget that I'm a druid. I still watch Healbot and when I see low health bars, I'll Barkskin / Bubble with a Felblossom and dump my entire mana on throwing heals around until I have just enough to switch back to bear/cat and jump back in.
Find your style or styles, and Battlegrounds can be a lot of fun. Good luck!
Also, what RareBeast said. I do that all the time when I feel like a change in play style, I'll just take my nice new blue PvP healing set even though I'm feral, and it's a huge help to the team even though it might not be optimal.
These days I go as feral because I'm starting to get the hang of it and actually kill thing - it's fun! - but I don't forget that I'm a druid. I still watch Healbot and when I see low health bars, I'll Barkskin / Bubble with a Felblossom and dump my entire mana on throwing heals around until I have just enough to switch back to bear/cat and jump back in.
Find your style or styles, and Battlegrounds can be a lot of fun. Good luck!
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Thanks for the advice, guys! Maybe I'll try a couple of builds (swiftmend, dreamstate... what are these strange words you speak and where is my mangle? ;))and see where I end up. I think I've only respecced that character once so it won't be expensive and this is all just for fun. I've always been Feral and although I love it to death it seems a shame not to try some of the other druidy goodness out.
Yep, definitely prepared to die a lot. :)
Yep, definitely prepared to die a lot. :)
You should definitely try all of the specs out, because it's fun and it's also very useful to understand how the rest of the druid's skills can be used. You should be fine in BGs, because you can leverage a bit more in a BG setting than you can in small group PvP. Also remember always that your mobility is one of your best assets as a druid in PvP!
As usual, cake, your problems and position mirrors mine pretty closely. So now that the people that know what they're doing have weighed in I'll give you a view from just a few rungs up the ladder.
I was virtually forced to do battlegrounds a month or so ago to get my S1 shoulders and S1 helm because they're great for feral tanking. I've rounded it out with the blue/rep Gloves and Legs, which lets me keep my entire primalstrike set intact. Can't wait to get 4 pieces of arena gear for the speed boost, though!
I've never enjoyed BGs because:
A) They're confusing with all the abbreviations and shorthand
B) They're chaotic with little to no leadership or agreed-upon strategy.
C) Every (loudmouth) alliance player on my server "knows" that alliance can never win a BG, and starts ranting about how badly every alliance player, especially his the people in that particular BG, suck beyond belief.
There's light at the end of the tunnel, though. Getting familiar with them makes them a LOT more fun, to the degree that I actually enjoy a few of them now. Expect to die constantly, it's part of the BG game, especially for entry level PvPers like you and I, and probably even more so as a healer because you'll get targeted heavily. I don't know if this works for a healer, but for me playing defense is fun because it usually gets neglected so it helps the team.
EotS: I recommend starting with Eye of the Storm because it has the fewest abbreviations (MT=Mage Tower, FR=Fel Reaver Ruins, DR=Draenei Ruins, BE=Blood Elf Tower, Mid=Middle, where the flag is), simplest mechanics, and you can see action across most of the battlefield. The one big thing to know is that flagrunning is fun, but capping and keeping towers wins the game.
AB: Arathi Basin is just like EotS in that it's about capturing and keeping locations on the map but it's bigger so you can't see whole battlefield and there's no flagrunning. All you have to learn is ST, LM, GM, BS, and Farm -- piece of cake.
AV: Alterac Valley is big and confusing...tons of abbreviations, complicated mechanics, the works. For starters, print this map of AV and keep it by your side so when they say "take IBGY then IBT then skip FWGY and rush RH" you can take a quick break to figure out what's going on. To be non-noobish I'd focus on the towers (especially IBT=Iceblood Tower and TP=Tower Point) and help capture/keep them. Then once they're "destroyed" move on. North and South tower are both within FW keep. People will start talking about rushing RH (Relief Hut Graveyard) or going after Drek'Thar, get to Frostwolf Keep where your healing will be massively helpful in taking him down.
WSG I hate. At least in my experience it turns into a long boring slugfest or turtle (two teams playing defense) more frequently than any other BG by far, even AV.
That's all my $.02 as a newb myself, so don't take it as gospel. It may be that I just know enough to be dangerous...to my own team. : )
I was virtually forced to do battlegrounds a month or so ago to get my S1 shoulders and S1 helm because they're great for feral tanking. I've rounded it out with the blue/rep Gloves and Legs, which lets me keep my entire primalstrike set intact. Can't wait to get 4 pieces of arena gear for the speed boost, though!
I've never enjoyed BGs because:
A) They're confusing with all the abbreviations and shorthand
B) They're chaotic with little to no leadership or agreed-upon strategy.
C) Every (loudmouth) alliance player on my server "knows" that alliance can never win a BG, and starts ranting about how badly every alliance player, especially his the people in that particular BG, suck beyond belief.
There's light at the end of the tunnel, though. Getting familiar with them makes them a LOT more fun, to the degree that I actually enjoy a few of them now. Expect to die constantly, it's part of the BG game, especially for entry level PvPers like you and I, and probably even more so as a healer because you'll get targeted heavily. I don't know if this works for a healer, but for me playing defense is fun because it usually gets neglected so it helps the team.
EotS: I recommend starting with Eye of the Storm because it has the fewest abbreviations (MT=Mage Tower, FR=Fel Reaver Ruins, DR=Draenei Ruins, BE=Blood Elf Tower, Mid=Middle, where the flag is), simplest mechanics, and you can see action across most of the battlefield. The one big thing to know is that flagrunning is fun, but capping and keeping towers wins the game.
AB: Arathi Basin is just like EotS in that it's about capturing and keeping locations on the map but it's bigger so you can't see whole battlefield and there's no flagrunning. All you have to learn is ST, LM, GM, BS, and Farm -- piece of cake.
AV: Alterac Valley is big and confusing...tons of abbreviations, complicated mechanics, the works. For starters, print this map of AV and keep it by your side so when they say "take IBGY then IBT then skip FWGY and rush RH" you can take a quick break to figure out what's going on. To be non-noobish I'd focus on the towers (especially IBT=Iceblood Tower and TP=Tower Point) and help capture/keep them. Then once they're "destroyed" move on. North and South tower are both within FW keep. People will start talking about rushing RH (Relief Hut Graveyard) or going after Drek'Thar, get to Frostwolf Keep where your healing will be massively helpful in taking him down.
WSG I hate. At least in my experience it turns into a long boring slugfest or turtle (two teams playing defense) more frequently than any other BG by far, even AV.
That's all my $.02 as a newb myself, so don't take it as gospel. It may be that I just know enough to be dangerous...to my own team. : )
Hee. Excellent tip about the map, Jee. I ventured into about 2 BG's in my 30's and I remember a lot of name-calling if anyone didn't know what anything meant. People are jerks. I mean, yanno, not YOU guys. The other jerks.
I actually recommend doing some WSG to start off if you haven't done many BGs. Yes, it can be pure hell. But there are two reasons:
1) As the smallest, slowest BG it is where you will learn the most about how to handle other classes.
2) Druids shine as flag carriers there, or as healing support to flag carriers.
Of course, as a Druid in WSG you will be at the top of everyone's kill list, even before you cast your first lifebloom. But this has its advantages. See 1).
1) As the smallest, slowest BG it is where you will learn the most about how to handle other classes.
2) Druids shine as flag carriers there, or as healing support to flag carriers.
Of course, as a Druid in WSG you will be at the top of everyone's kill list, even before you cast your first lifebloom. But this has its advantages. See 1).
teacake wrote:
Maz, you are the ruliest. You're a pancake breakfast with a side of bacon. Seriously.
Thanks. That's sweet enough to be my new signature. And I'm glad I could help you. Quor and the others might offer some better advice since my experience with healing as a Druid is limited.
I love the Druid class, though, and I absolutely love being the dedicated target of a Restoration Druid. Mmh, those HoT spells just make me woozy.
Of course, as with any European players, I'm more than willing to come to your server and give you some advice "face-to-face," provided you play on EU servers, of course.
Also, I'd advice against joining Warsong Gulch (WSG) until after you've accumulated a lot of Season 1 (S1) gear. WSG is all about attributes and you rarely get to fight someone one-on-one. You're either left alone or completely overrun. Ususally the latter when you're a healer.
Eye of the Storm and Alterac Valley are the Battlegrounds I'd recommend for starting out. They're the largest and most skirmish typed games you'll find. Also, people tend to do a lot of large-scale combat there, allowing you test your healing capabilities. You're not as likely to be singled out by a team of Rogues.
Edited, May 3rd 2008 11:39am by Mazra
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Running Resto is definitely fun in any of the battlegrounds, AV and EoTS especially for me. I even did the playing around as a few others have with running it feral in my healing gear. Gotta love the new nurturing instinct.
If you decide you wanna try it out as Feral at any point, I have to say as an up and coming tank I love to run into a BG in my tanking gear which still has a decent amount of DPS and stealthing around in cat form. I always try to find a rogue that looks like he knows what he is doing and follow him around.
There's nothing quite like popping Tiger's Fury, let him stun them, Ravage, shred, shred = Death to just about anything in the 69 and under brackets that all the BG's but AV have. Then just restealth and wait for the next target. It's a ton of fun and they'll usually try and attack the rogue first if someone comes up so you can always pop out and throw a LB+rejuv on him and jump in bear for a quick feral charge + Stun + Mangle.
Good times had by all. Anyway Feel free to Armory me, I always log out in my Tanking gear and It's funny as hell to pop frenzied regen and watch them beat away at you while everyone else hits them in the back and they can't figure out why they can't kill you when you have 11k hp, 20k armor and 32% dodge.
If you decide you wanna try it out as Feral at any point, I have to say as an up and coming tank I love to run into a BG in my tanking gear which still has a decent amount of DPS and stealthing around in cat form. I always try to find a rogue that looks like he knows what he is doing and follow him around.
There's nothing quite like popping Tiger's Fury, let him stun them, Ravage, shred, shred = Death to just about anything in the 69 and under brackets that all the BG's but AV have. Then just restealth and wait for the next target. It's a ton of fun and they'll usually try and attack the rogue first if someone comes up so you can always pop out and throw a LB+rejuv on him and jump in bear for a quick feral charge + Stun + Mangle.
Good times had by all. Anyway Feel free to Armory me, I always log out in my Tanking gear and It's funny as hell to pop frenzied regen and watch them beat away at you while everyone else hits them in the back and they can't figure out why they can't kill you when you have 11k hp, 20k armor and 32% dodge.
32% dodge? Daaamn.
I'm only sitting at 25%, but with 14k health. Need to get my hands on some more avoidance gear.
I'm only sitting at 25%, but with 14k health. Need to get my hands on some more avoidance gear.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
It will go down slightly when I hit 70 and use the last two pieces of Heavy Clefthoof armor, but with the +agil I will be putting on bracers and gloves and the Nethercleft leg armor I already had put on the legs it shouldn't go down much.
Armory me if you want, Name and Server are in my sig. I am always open for suggestions on gear and willing to help anyone figure out how to get geared as I have preparing for tanking heroics/Kara within a couple days from 70.
As of right now I have enough honor for the pvp gladiators spaulders and gloves(gotta love 2pc resil bonus) to replace what I have and I also have the clefhoof leggings and vest sitting in the bank. Also have the Glyph from Scryers for the shoulders and looking to get revered with KoT soon for the Head chant.
The only thing I am missing is http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28256 and the following will be my stats.(I'd like to pick up Tree-Mender's belt and maybe Delicate Eternium Ring before I start Kara, but that's another story)
At 70 I will be at roughly:
14,237 hp unbuffed (14,453 self buffed)
21,550 armor unbuffed (21,800 self buffed)
30-31% dodge
Uncrittable
Edit: The 4% Dodge bonus from the Talent Feral Swiftness does not show on your character sheet in game, but is there and will show on the armory. I plan on ticketing a GM tonight about that. Also your current HP while in bear form if you log out in it is calculated incorrectly in the Armory. They used a straight X.45 bonus to stamina (HotW+shapeshift) instead of X.25 and then X.20 of that.
Edited, May 3rd 2008 5:43pm by Galenmoon
Armory me if you want, Name and Server are in my sig. I am always open for suggestions on gear and willing to help anyone figure out how to get geared as I have preparing for tanking heroics/Kara within a couple days from 70.
As of right now I have enough honor for the pvp gladiators spaulders and gloves(gotta love 2pc resil bonus) to replace what I have and I also have the clefhoof leggings and vest sitting in the bank. Also have the Glyph from Scryers for the shoulders and looking to get revered with KoT soon for the Head chant.
The only thing I am missing is http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28256 and the following will be my stats.(I'd like to pick up Tree-Mender's belt and maybe Delicate Eternium Ring before I start Kara, but that's another story)
At 70 I will be at roughly:
14,237 hp unbuffed (14,453 self buffed)
21,550 armor unbuffed (21,800 self buffed)
30-31% dodge
Uncrittable
Edit: The 4% Dodge bonus from the Talent Feral Swiftness does not show on your character sheet in game, but is there and will show on the armory. I plan on ticketing a GM tonight about that. Also your current HP while in bear form if you log out in it is calculated incorrectly in the Armory. They used a straight X.45 bonus to stamina (HotW+shapeshift) instead of X.25 and then X.20 of that.
Edited, May 3rd 2008 5:43pm by Galenmoon
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Posted: May 10 2008 at 11:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) No offense.. but you act like the game is rocket science. But first off.. you dont want to pvp and you will never raid... hmm why play then? Thats what you do at 70.. Pve which is raiding.. or Pvp....? So if you dont want/like either.. dont play. Back to the rocket science. BGs.. hard? Barely. The game is a breeze. If you want to heal bgs for gear...
tea, heres the best advice i can give you as a druid. its something every druid *should* be able to do (every healer really, to a degree, but druids more than anyone else), but sadly is less and less present in druid playstyles these days.
Learn how to juke.
if you dont know what juking is, its the act of faking out your opponent, and in this instance im not referring to the pump fake of a casted-then-cancelled spell. im referring to movement patterns. a predictable movement pattern is, well, predictable. if all you do is run away from someone in one direction, then youre well on your way to becoming easy meat. a good rule that i practice and is, again, sadly unseen nowadays, is to alter direction by at least 60 degrees each and every time you shift. naturally this applies most readily to a situation where you need to get away from someone (typically a melee) but it can serve in any instance where proper LoSing is needed.
in short, if youre being chased, dont run in a straight line. switch direction every single time you shift, and you put your enemy at a huge disadvantage, as he now has to react to your movements, and when lag and human reaction are all factored in, you can buy enough space to pull off that all important next move.
Edited, May 10th 2008 3:37pm by Quor
Learn how to juke.
if you dont know what juking is, its the act of faking out your opponent, and in this instance im not referring to the pump fake of a casted-then-cancelled spell. im referring to movement patterns. a predictable movement pattern is, well, predictable. if all you do is run away from someone in one direction, then youre well on your way to becoming easy meat. a good rule that i practice and is, again, sadly unseen nowadays, is to alter direction by at least 60 degrees each and every time you shift. naturally this applies most readily to a situation where you need to get away from someone (typically a melee) but it can serve in any instance where proper LoSing is needed.
in short, if youre being chased, dont run in a straight line. switch direction every single time you shift, and you put your enemy at a huge disadvantage, as he now has to react to your movements, and when lag and human reaction are all factored in, you can buy enough space to pull off that all important next move.
Edited, May 10th 2008 3:37pm by Quor
I've tried juking, but I ended up doing three 60-degree turns to the right. I guess I need more variation.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
the best way i know to juke is to use your left click to change your camera angle while you continue to hold down a direction of movement. once you get your desired new heading hit your right click (while still holding left click) and release your old movement key and you should take off in the direction your camera was facing. this basically allows you to do a 180 in the blink of an eye.
it takes practice getting used too, but theres nothing quite like the feeling of knowing that warrior just wasted 20-30 rage spamming piercing howl, trying futilely to re-snare you so he can get his bearings. little does he know youre know where near where you were a moment ago. ive lost people for a good 10-20 seconds this way, simply because they cant keep up with my movement.
it takes practice getting used too, but theres nothing quite like the feeling of knowing that warrior just wasted 20-30 rage spamming piercing howl, trying futilely to re-snare you so he can get his bearings. little does he know youre know where near where you were a moment ago. ive lost people for a good 10-20 seconds this way, simply because they cant keep up with my movement.
Nifty, Quor, thanks!
I haven't actually done any of this yet as I've been playing other characters lately. But I'm holding on to all this good advice. :)
Not that it's some people's business why I play, geesh, did I ask you for $15?
I haven't actually done any of this yet as I've been playing other characters lately. But I'm holding on to all this good advice. :)
Not that it's some people's business why I play, geesh, did I ask you for $15?
I've been bg'ing/areana'ing it up a lot recently and thought I would put up some info as well, I have yet to try a restokin build (which honestly seems pretty fun), but what I use is http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0zjZxG0oZVVIzcq0eRx . I would think it is more arena based than bg, but I am able to, almost without exception, be on top of healing meters in bg's with this.
The thing I love the most is I can heal just fine by running around and just healing as healers tend to do, but if I manage to find some enemies on myself I have some good survivability. From an instant feral charge, bash with furor/ pounce, claw, maim/ nature's grasp/ no interruption on roots or cyclone and then the swiftmend and nature's swiftness to boot I find I can last quite a while in bg's where the focus fire seems to be a bit less harsh (while giggling seeing how I am often unkillable depending on the group).
This is a much different playstyle than restokin I would imagine, but to me I have found it rather enjoyable, and pretty damn efficient in my opinion (for bg's and arena as well).
The thing I love the most is I can heal just fine by running around and just healing as healers tend to do, but if I manage to find some enemies on myself I have some good survivability. From an instant feral charge, bash with furor/ pounce, claw, maim/ nature's grasp/ no interruption on roots or cyclone and then the swiftmend and nature's swiftness to boot I find I can last quite a while in bg's where the focus fire seems to be a bit less harsh (while giggling seeing how I am often unkillable depending on the group).
This is a much different playstyle than restokin I would imagine, but to me I have found it rather enjoyable, and pretty damn efficient in my opinion (for bg's and arena as well).
As as last tip: Go watch some movies of restodruid or dreamstate druid - personally I can recommend all sonnys movies (locking down fel domination as a resto druid should not be laughed at o.O), and for dreamstate janiran is a good example as well. This is mostly arena videos, but you can still learn plenty of stuff by just watching them and see what they do to get melees off them etc.
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