After Kara...?Follow

very rough estimates. And this is for single target boss.
Kara: 700-800spldmg 600-700dps.
Grull/mag: 800-900spldmg. 700-800dps
SSC/TK: 900-1000spelldmg. 800-1000dps.
BT/Hyjal: 1000-1200spldmg. 1000-1300dps
make sure you are hit cap. then get.
spelldmg > spellhaste > spellcrit.
*though personally for fire i feel a buffed 30%crit is needed before dumping it for spellhaste*

is 1300 dps enough for BT?i think you need higher?

So how much spellhit do I need? And also, I'm a frosty; Do I need to keep up dps wise with fire? 'Cause that could be tricky...

Ohh and one more question guys :D
How good would you rate the new badge gear, like Tormented Demonsoul Robes and such?

If you can stand to PvP, I'd like to add in that going for a season 2 mainhand(Season 3 would be better if you can get the rating) would probably make sense as well.

Otherwise, I totally agree on the order. Though eventually you may want to replace the Heroic MgT robe with a badge one.

spellhaste gear is only available in T6-equivalent raids (BT/MH+SW) and Badge rewards. It comes out that Haste ~~ Spelldmg when you can stack a bit of it.

I never really see a frost mage in BT (minus for the Illidan fight) because it does significantly less dps than a deep fire mage. But I would shoot for similar numbers of 1100+ frost/fire damage unbuffed.

When I said spamming I meant like with my frostbolts (cause that's what I'm always nuking with). I've also been thinking of respeccing to Arcane, as you get major spell dmg and int...How effective do you think I'd be in raids?

If you have 2pc T5, there's a very effective, low threat method to DPSing using Arcane and frostbolts. The idea(as I remember reading it) is that you need enough mana regen with Mage Armor and Arcane Meditation that spamming frostbolts costs less mana than you are regaining per cast(you will almost definitely need a shadow priest for this). From there, you spam Arcane Blast until you're low on mana(using a gem and a pot early), then pop Evoc and do it again. Then, when low, you cast frostbolts until you have enough mana for another decent sustained spam, or a potion/gem timer comes up.

For that to work, you spec a fairly standard 40/0/21. It has the theoretical potential to do as much DPS as 2/48/11. I've seen it work. The guy in my guild running it routinely does almost as much damage as me on bosses(occasionally more) and utterly destroys me on trash mobs(no imp scorch up for long periods means I do a lot less damage).

The kicker here is that now you actually need to stack a fair bit of spirit. Which isn't too hard if you focus on getting your tier gear, which is loaded with the stuff.


Now, on to your other question about how hard your frostbolts need to be hitting...well, I really can't tell you. A lot of factors will come into play here, and you may acheive the same overall DPS at a lower damage per frostbolt than someone else does because you have more crit or haste than they do. Just follow what CalenciaBlue suggested as far as spell damage/DPS and you'll be fine.

For raw spell damage, there isn't anything better until T6 content. I have T5 but i'm still not replacing my spellfire except for bosses where i need stamina (I'm not using an AB build)