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#1 Apr 29 2008 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent
Currently I am a demo specced lock (7/43/11 for some pve/pvp play). Toon name is Ogress on Staghelm. I left myself unbuffed at last logout. My unbuffed (no demon, no fel armor, etc) stats are +817 spell dmg, +133 spell hit, and 17.4% crit.

I am wondering if a switch to a 41/0/20 raid spec is going to outperform my current demo spec. Lets assume that I can keep the FG alive on most fights. I have been into Kara and ZA and have lost him a few times but am getting better. Does anyone have any experience with the two specs? If so, at my gear level do you think one spec will out-perform the other. Or is it a wash and more based on my ability to keep the demon alive and not gimp my dps because it is dead.

I have also read some posts about a 0/40/21 spec but doubt I have the crit and hit to make that worthwhile. Likewise I think the 0/21/40 spec is way out of my reach right now. Please correct me if I am wrong.


#2 Apr 29 2008 at 9:35 AM Rating: Good
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I'm in Kara now and am actually 43/0/18. I am one of 2 locks and it is my job to put up CoS, so I have Malediction 3/3. My spec is here.
#3 Apr 29 2008 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I like the felguard spec, but im not sure if its the best dps spec for raid like u said.......U could try SM/Ruin or SM/Demonic Sacrifice, etc....Im not sure what the requirements for a destro build are, but somebody will post them they are all over forum.
#4 Apr 29 2008 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
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The requirement for a 0/21/40 spec are ~1000 dmg, 20% crit before talents and hit capped. Also, I believe that a number of people have proven that UA does more damage than ruin, therefore making 41/0/20 more effective than 40/0/21. That is of course until you have the stats to switch to full destro.

As for whether Demo out-dpses affl or destro (at an earlier level), thats debatable. There was good thread about this not too long ago, this. Basically just go with what is more fun and what you feel most comfortable with and you'll do better.



Edited, Apr 29th 2008 9:23pm by germa
#5 Apr 29 2008 at 1:27 PM Rating: Decent
Germa has it correct. An UA build is your best bet for raid dps at this point. 41/0/20 and 0/21/40 are well tested and proven specs for raid dps. The other suggestions are mostly old builds from earlier versions of the game. Like he said, UA is your best bet now until you reach the minimums mentioned above for 0/21/40.

Make sure you take enough points in suppression to bring yourself to the hit cap. Also since alot of your damage on bosses will be coming from you DoTs, getting a DoT timer would help increase your efficiency and damage output.
#6 Apr 29 2008 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
I use 10/41/10 and do just fine, top dps in kara and I've gotten 3 drops from there. :D

Spec-http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aerie+Peak&n=Arose
#7 Apr 30 2008 at 3:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Felguard spec should work just fine on most fights and still has great DPS. I'm not sure whether my DPS now is better or equal to what I was putting out as UA, but it's topping damage meters, making me a lot more survivable and is just generally awesome. Not only that but it's far better (IMHO) in PvP than being UA.

Liliath, my main
#8 Apr 30 2008 at 4:48 AM Rating: Decent
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I just recently decided to try out the Demo spec. I was 43/1/17 and I switched to 6/45/10.

I was hit capped ~1050 Shadow Dam and ~15% crit. My DPS jumped a lot. Due to some gear replacements (got Blood Maw Magus Blade and Jewel of Infinite Possibilities to replace my Staff of Infinite Mystery) I am at 176 Hit, ~1250 +Shadow and ~19% Crit. I rock the DPS like never before now.
#9 Apr 30 2008 at 5:43 AM Rating: Decent
Another convert to the Dark Side. Welcome, my child.

Now I just need the gear you're carrying around...
#10 Apr 30 2008 at 6:05 AM Rating: Decent
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switch to an affliction build, get yourself to 76 hit rating, bank all other item slots that add hit and go for pure spell DMG, once your current gear + banked gear = 180-202 Spell hit, switch to 0/21/40
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