No BoarsFollow

My apologies if this has been discussed before.

After perusing both the Outlands and the Petopia site, there doesn't seem to be any tameable boars level 61+ available to hunters. There are boars in the Outland......but they're all un-tameable..

Has anyone else noticed this? Any theories on why this is?

Edited, Apr 29th 2008 12:50pm by Eliff

If they make Helboars tamable, I'll give them my first-born son.

I'm a boar lover, but the thought of taming one of the few models I like and leveling it to 70 makes my left eye twitch.

Sort of off topic, but have you guys been to Petopia lately? They redesigned the site, apparently. Looking nice.

-link-

Well, they just nerfed boars (or they will in 2.4.2) so I wouldn't stress out about it.

I've found that a boar is great for survivability but, other than charge (which will be nerfed), it doesn't hold agro that well. For one fight I can nuke a target down and not pull agro, but while charge is on cooldown, all I do is pull agro off the boar. My ravager can hold agro for one or two seconds longer, which is a big enough difference for me.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html

In the hunter section, pretty close to the top.

I think something inadvertently changed in the 2.4.1 that caused boars to create less threat. People complained, Hortus looked into it and showed us what Blizz thinks a shot rotation is (autoshot until arcane is up, then hit that, rinse and repeat) and said threat was fine, more people complained, Hortus discovered that boars were causing too much threat and BAM! Incoming nerf.

That's a very, very rough approximation of what I've read/heard. I tried to find the page where Hortus showed us his "test" for threat but I can't find it.

This nerf to charge makes Owls the best solo pets out there i guess....
screech+growl > growl alone...

I didn't like the skin of the Plagued Boars, so I levelled an Ashmane Boar all the way up to 70. What a waste of time
From what I understood about the mechanics:
The Charge has an attack power bonus to it's next attack, directly after the Charge. Up until a couple of patches ago, this attack power bonus was applied to the Growl effect, greatly increasing the amount of threat it generated. I would sometimes see an initial spike of 4k threat, from the initial Charge / Growl / Gore.
Then, when the patch struck, the attack power bonus was applied to the 1st melee attack after the charge. The Growl wasn't affected, meaning it generated no more threat than any other Cat / bear / Spider out there. Typically 1k to 1.2k
I have gone off my Boar now, and use my Cat pretty much exclusively.
I am also levelling up a Rip-blade Ravager (i like the colour change effect) which may replace the kitty at some stage.

The best info on the Pet Nerf ? Saga is on Petopia , Not only are boars going to be normalised but the growl problem still has not been fixed , i always could with any pet break their aggro , that i will agree on ( but that is being a close fighter ) but now even at maximum distance and waiting for pet to get over 2k threat within 3 shots usually the mob is coming for me . Hell i always was a bit of a melee Hunter but now i almost cannot avoid it except when the mob dies on its way to me , This is not amusing any more or the almost constant drinking where i am drinking like a Mage does.

This is putting me off my favourite class in the game.

The ones that crawl out of the ground in a barrens quest were cool.
They use to say "xxxx crawls out of the ground to protect its eggs" whenever you summoned em :)

Trachela might have a hard time holding aggro because it's a Carrion Bird, which does significantly less damage than an Owl or Ravager.

I remember seeing a blue post saying that the threat charge generated was a bug. It was never meant to create that kind of threat. I had actually hoped that other pets were going to be boosted to create that kind of threat.

I also just spent weeks getting my boar to 70 before that patch. No way I could do an undead looking boar so I went with the level 48 ones. Was a long run getting it to 70.

ProjectMidnight, I've used an owl since level 60. It does not, and never has, held aggro for me any better than any other pet. Screech was good at 60 for getting a little AE aggro for Stratholme packs. However, it does not suffice for anything other than aggroing nearby neutral mobs. Still, it is better aggro than Claw or Gore.

Also, don't overestimate the significance of pet DPS in terms of threat. You're talking about a pet keeping up with you in threat when they do roughly 1/4 of your damage, 1/3 for BM. Growl has to make up that difference. Adding a +7% modifier to damage output between an Owl and a Carrion Bird is not going to turn the world upside down.


Simply put, with the change to boar charge, there isn't a single pet in the game that can hold aggro. I out-threat my pet by a ratio of roughly 2:1 according to Omen. Granted, that's with raid gear, and I'm survival spec, but even another hunter I'm leveling to test a guide has difficulty in the low 60's as a Beast Master.

P.S. Survival has it way worse here than any other spec. You don't realize just how bad it is unless you've played survival. Increased emphasis on crits + lower AP totals for smaller growl bonus = no chance in hell for the pet.

I would like to see something like a return to pets with special abilities that actually DO something, give us a few choices to go with each general style of play. Also, let us shower our pets with 'gear'. I'd like to see barding (armor) that we'd have to get just like our gear, perhaps weapons (add on claws, talons, clubs, whatever). Make it so it would be a royal pain in the tush to do all this and keep our gear up as well as our pets.

Hunters have always been broke for one reason or another. There's nothing wrong with that reasoning, it takes more to keep a small team going than a single person. Keep this as a drawback to being a Hunter.

We have fewer bag slots of our own due to ammo. Let my pet carry something that I can't get at right away (say during a fight) but out of combat, lemme have a look in the saddlebags, let my pet carry their own food, etc.

In the end, it should be okay for boars to have charge, cats to attack faster, birds to screech and block vision, windserpents and dragonhawks to blast things at range, gorillas to stomp, ravengers to slice & dice, etc. etc. Crabs, spiders, bears and everything tameable should have at least 1 special thing that only they can do, and at least 1 'group' thing that the kind of pet group can do (ie: flying = dive, swift ground = dash, etc.)

You reading this Blizzard? Give us options! ^_^

After reading this I don't think i want a pet at all.Damnit.I'm a level 8 hunter.at 10 i'll be able to tame my first pet and I'm NE as well.What then do i tame if the boar is out of question :(.