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#52 May 07 2008 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
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Wytryszek wrote:

As for saying the same thing - well, there are definitely some common points, but MentalFrog is stuck on the weapon damage range calculations, like *many* others I must say, and probably does not see that:
average weapon damage = (min+max)/2 = DPS*speed
In fact you can use any side of the equation for calculating SS (or any other) damage. All values are given right at the weapon tooltip. But the fact is, that if you "freeze" the DPS value, for example comparing 2 weapons with the same DPS, then it's much easier to look at weapon speed only, than do the (min+max)/2 calculation. Both ways get you the same result.
So if you, for example, compare 2 top-level "blue" weapons, that all have 71.x dps, then the only thing you need to check is the weapon speed. "Slower is better". This is where it is coming from.

What is wrong, is saying that only one of the methods is right, which comes from failing to understand the other method. And, if you don't understand things like weapon speed and DPS, there is really not much future in rogue theorycrafting.


One method? All you're doing is complicating the formula. Your formula works because you're solving for z, or the weapon's damage. It is the plain and simple fact that increasing z increases your special attack damage. Why? Because it's in the formula. Speed never is. Ever heard of simplifying?

z = x*y

x = z/y

y = z/x

x = (x*y)/y

y = (x*y)/x

z = ((x*y)/y)*((x*y)/x)

z = (((x*y)/y)*((x*y)/x))/((x*y)/x)*((((x*y)/y)*((x*y)/x))/((x*y)/y))

Yeah, it's a bit exaggerated.

If the weapon's damage information wasn't in the tooltip you'd have to use your formula to obtain the weapon damage. However people still saying take a slower weapon would still be false.

Two swords:

75 dmg w/ 2.6 sec = 28.8 dps

80 dmg w/ 2.5 sec = 32 dps

A difference of about 5 dps is very reasonable. If people went around saying if two weapons are the same dps the slower one is better, that would be correct. However if you looked at the damage it would work in all cases for special attacks. An example of 2 swords with a 10-20 dps difference with the same results was a good example of this.

Every single time I hear someone say take the weapon because it's slower. It's false.







#53 May 07 2008 at 12:11 PM Rating: Decent
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MentalFrog wrote:
Wytryszek wrote:
MentalFrog wrote:
You're an idiot.

Are you trying to emulate Theophany? I think you are not there yet...


No, but I'm flattered. I only wish I could get as many campers as he has.

You're still an idiot.

Yeah, it's a gift, what can I say?
#54 May 09 2008 at 10:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Sorry for the necro post all, but I had to vent.

Its been 10 levels since I last asked this question, making me level 48. I picked up...

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=10823

along the way, but have yet to find anything better on the AH. I also haven't found anything in terms of drops, even with the "find an upgrade" search the armory provides. I've even taken up checking both faction's auction houses, but to no avail. There is absolutely nothing for swords from 41-57.

The only 3 options I have are the PvP sword, thrash blade, and becoming a weaponsmith. I've already devoted myself to engineering, I don't have much time to put into PvP as I'm trying to keep up with some RL friends, and I couldn't get a Mara group OR run for the life of me. I've tried offering 50G for the run today but nobody has the scepter anymore.

What should I do? Offer 100G? Other than offering more golds for a run, I can't see any other option.

I hate you blizzard. No love for rogues. ><
#55 May 10 2008 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Level up.

Forget about getting huge upgrades because in 10 lvls you can obtain Outland stuff.

The time you spend trying to run an instance for a certain drop in the old world you could obtain lvl 58 and increase your gear/weapons 10 fold.

#56 May 10 2008 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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I know I'll be 58 soon, but I really don't want to be weilding an RFD quest sword when I get there.

#57 May 10 2008 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
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So find a Krol Blade on the AH or something.
#58 May 10 2008 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Overlord Theophany wrote:
So find a Krol Blade on the AH or something.


I would if I could. I'm so tired of having no options for gear.
#59 May 11 2008 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Broke down and started doing BGs since I'm 2 levels ahead of the pack.

I'm up to 23 marks so far. 7 more and I'll be done with this business.
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