I have heard for Mana efficency to spam FOL. I understand this but I have recently been told to use the lowest level FOL I have in my spell book. Right now I do not have enough + healing for this to be viable.
I am still fairly new to paladin, but how much + healing would it take to make this the right approach, or is the guy who told me this crazy?
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FoL shouldn't have to be downranked. You can play with rank 6 though, it is solid enough and a mana saver for tough fights.. Rank 1 with +2141 healing (the amount on my toon) only heals for 689 with BoL up. The coefficient for FoL is 42.86%, but that is obviously not the case on down ranked spells, since I should get 857 or so for FoL rank 1.
HL can (and probably should) be downranked, 9/10 depending on personal preference and the situation. The change to BoL benefits on downrank once again made down ranking HL to tank 8 or lower not the most efficient choice.
So yeah your friend is crazy.
Depending on where you are at you will want to either up spell crit or mp5, though you want to balance both at all times to maximize mana return. A shadowpriest helps as well. As do elixirs, flasks, sporefish, and mana oil. Also don't forget on those hard fights to have mana pots and to burn them on cool down as soon as you are down 3k mana, not when you are sitting at 1k mana left.
Edited, Apr 26th 2008 4:36pm by bodhisattva
HL can (and probably should) be downranked, 9/10 depending on personal preference and the situation. The change to BoL benefits on downrank once again made down ranking HL to tank 8 or lower not the most efficient choice.
So yeah your friend is crazy.
Depending on where you are at you will want to either up spell crit or mp5, though you want to balance both at all times to maximize mana return. A shadowpriest helps as well. As do elixirs, flasks, sporefish, and mana oil. Also don't forget on those hard fights to have mana pots and to burn them on cool down as soon as you are down 3k mana, not when you are sitting at 1k mana left.
Edited, Apr 26th 2008 4:36pm by bodhisattva
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There is also the easy way to not worry about downranking and whatnot and download Healbot. It automatically adjusts your ranks and casts those to be the most mana efficient as possible. This is not 100% accurate though as it will only read the targets HP at the moment you begin casting so in a raid setting it is possible to overheal if you start casting a Holy Light after the Priest has landed a Greater Heal on the same target.
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The guy is either crazy or he hasn't played the game in way too long.
Coefficient reduction on downranking didn't used to exitst, so you could spam healing spells dirt cheap at rank 1 and never run out of mana. Obviously, with TBC-quality gear this would have completely removed any concept of mana conservation and made healing a total snooze.
Edited, Apr 26th 2008 11:16pm by Gaudion
Coefficient reduction on downranking didn't used to exitst, so you could spam healing spells dirt cheap at rank 1 and never run out of mana. Obviously, with TBC-quality gear this would have completely removed any concept of mana conservation and made healing a total snooze.
Edited, Apr 26th 2008 11:16pm by Gaudion
Pfft healbot.
Good if you are new to healer, but Grid+Clique is where it is really at.
Good if you are new to healer, but Grid+Clique is where it is really at.
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What's the point of playing if all you do is mindlessly click the same button and let a program do the thinking for you? Seriously, wow isn't even an overly challenging game, and yet people still feel the need to dumb it down even more?
To a certain extent in raid situation you have to have things bound and ready to go. If you don't have a macro programmed to assign a click to cast spell but instead you are nothing but fail.
I used to raid early on with a guy that was all about the hot bar or even using assigned key bindings and frankly he was always a half second behind, which in terms of healing is essentially make or break in a raid environment.
So yeah, Left click is Fol, Right click HL rank 9, alt left cleanse, alt right Blessing of Protection, scroll button is Holy Shock, I have a heal target of target macro for random aggro fights like Solarian.
My problem with Healbot is that a) The auto judging of what rank you need to use can actually be a problem, I found low rank heals going off when a sudden damage spike would happen and I needed the one I was hoping fore b) Functionality, I can see the second and I mean the exact millisecond when someone other than tank has aggro or is being focused for something like the icebolt on Rage Winterchill and can be on them. Healbot has the same function but nowhere near as precise as Grid and that .25 of second is the difference between a BoP or a heal and is why I top charts, cleanses and just plain keep people alive where most pallies have to rez the guy after the fight is over.
I used to raid early on with a guy that was all about the hot bar or even using assigned key bindings and frankly he was always a half second behind, which in terms of healing is essentially make or break in a raid environment.
So yeah, Left click is Fol, Right click HL rank 9, alt left cleanse, alt right Blessing of Protection, scroll button is Holy Shock, I have a heal target of target macro for random aggro fights like Solarian.
My problem with Healbot is that a) The auto judging of what rank you need to use can actually be a problem, I found low rank heals going off when a sudden damage spike would happen and I needed the one I was hoping fore b) Functionality, I can see the second and I mean the exact millisecond when someone other than tank has aggro or is being focused for something like the icebolt on Rage Winterchill and can be on them. Healbot has the same function but nowhere near as precise as Grid and that .25 of second is the difference between a BoP or a heal and is why I top charts, cleanses and just plain keep people alive where most pallies have to rez the guy after the fight is over.
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so bodi (or someone else that feels up to it), cant u do a "start-using grid+click guide" or direct me to one. I really want it, but to me those advanced add-ons is a jungle. :-(
Thank goodness my mouse has 6 buttons then eh. Plenty of room to bind things to.
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so bodi (or someone else that feels up to it), cant u do a "start-using grid+click guide" or direct me to one. I really want it, but to me those advanced add-ons is a jungle. :-(
I am put off by complicated-looking addons too, but Grid+ Clique is actually not that hard to use. First download both of them (they are separate mods) and put them in your addon folder.
When you start up, take a few minutes to check out the configuration menus. Grid will have a colourful little icon on the edge of your minimap, check out the options. You should also have a box on your screen with your name on it as well, this is the Grid unit frame. When you're in a party/raid, your party/raid members will have their own boxes. Grid's options will let you change the appearance of the box, how it changes if you are low on health, have a status effect, etc.
You get to Clique's options from your spells/abilities menu. Underneath your regular four tabs there should be a new one; that is Clique. Once you open it up, all you have to do is browse to the spell/ability in your book that you want to set, and use the button you want to bind it to - e.g. browse to FoL and click on it with your left mouse button, now that's bound to it.
It sounds much more complicated than it is, so just try it out and play around with it.
I havn't found the need to downrank since they nerfed holy light rank 4. Current gear has so much crit/mp5, and the fights I do are getting towards 5 or 6 mins, so mana is rarely a problem.
Overhealing is good, if a tank is on 90% hp when you start casting, doesn't mean hes not gonna get crushed, windfuried etc in the 1.5-2s that you've been casting, should only downrank when mana is a massive problem.
Overhealing is good, if a tank is on 90% hp when you start casting, doesn't mean hes not gonna get crushed, windfuried etc in the 1.5-2s that you've been casting, should only downrank when mana is a massive problem.
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