So i'm gonna buy WoW and WoW:TBC in a few days and i've been thinking of starting a shaman.I had a druid and don't want to start one again and i thought that i should start a mage but...i think shaman is better.So i think i should be enhancement because i want to level fast and for elemental that you need a lot of mana....but i don't know where to put my attribute points.Can you guys help me?When i reach lvl 70 i'm gonna switch to resto and i'll need to put points in int...i think str is the main attribute of an enhancement shaman....so is there any way i can reset my attribute points?If there isn't then it's ok.
I was asking what are the primary attributes for a enhancement shaman and the primary attributes for a resto shaman...but w/e.Btw can anyone recommend any addons?I'm going to download Quest Helper,Auctioneer,Atlasloot Enchanted,Simple MP3 Player 2008(I have no idea why i posted this one here) and Titan Panel.Btw is there any difference between Atlasloot Enchanted and Atlas?Also i've heard that elemental is considered to have better gear availability than Enhancement once you hit Outland.Is this true?And what does a enhacement shaman supposed to be doing?DPS-ing or something?If a shaman is supposed to be DPS-ing how does he/she do it?It's been a year since i last played WoW so i may have forgotten most of the things i've learned but i've never been a....DPS-ing class.I was a resto druid and a warlock...i think i've heard that warlocks are a DPS-ing class....So i've heard that when you reach lvl 40 you can dual wield.Is that only when you get the enhancement talent skill Dual Wield or can all talent trees get it?Should i get the Improved Ghost Wolf skill or is it useless?And what about Enhancing Totems?Is it useful?Here's what i've done with the Talent Calculator so far. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hZxV0oE0sVuqo
Can you guys post some other build because i don't know if i should waste all my points on the enhancement tree or spend some points on the other trees.@Fpicky:Considering that i will be a melee DPS i won't be needing the resto talents skills except maybe Nature's Guidance.... how about this
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hZxV0oE0sVuqoVbe
Btw is it hard to get the Skyshatter Harness item set? http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/itemset.html?setid=682
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I honestly don't know if you played the same game you are thinking of before when you had a druid. Either way all your main stats cannot be changed and add more points at each level at a predetermined amount. The way that you affect your main stats is through gear, enchantments to that gear, buffs (spells that give you bonuses to stats/abilities), and through Talents.
If you want to go enhancement, then you will be looking to get gear with a lot of Agility, Strength, Attack power, and Stamina.
If you want to go elemental you will be looking for Int, spell power, crit, mp5 and stamina.
Both specs are valid leveling specs and it mostly just depends on if you like throwing pain or dealing it up close.
If you want to go enhancement, then you will be looking to get gear with a lot of Agility, Strength, Attack power, and Stamina.
If you want to go elemental you will be looking for Int, spell power, crit, mp5 and stamina.
Both specs are valid leveling specs and it mostly just depends on if you like throwing pain or dealing it up close.
The only way to determine your starting ability scores is when you are choosing your race, since the different races start out with slightly different scores. However, this should NOT be the primary factor in your race decision, as after several levels your gear will have a much bigger impact on your stats than your race. Instead, racials and appearance should play a much bigger role--don't go with something for the stats, when you don't want to be staring at its butt for 70 levels.
As for which stats are important for an Enhancement Shaman, I'm guessing it would be Strength, Intellect, and Stamina, plus Agility and Attack Power. (Later on, MP5 more than Int, I believe.) Mana is still important, since you'll need it for shocks and totems even if you won't be doing a lot of healing or lightning bolts--don't go for spelldamage gear unless it really is an upgrade, though, since that's not such a big part of your damage, and it tends to be cloth gear. Umm... of the Gorilla stuff should be good for you, it's Strength and Intellect. Don't bother with Spirit at all, it might do more for Enhance shammies since they don't spend as much time casting, but I've never heard it recommended as something to look for on shammy gear.
Since you're looking at Resto, I can tell you a little bit about which stats are good for that--it's the spec I've played since level 19, anyway, so I know more about it than the others. I personally go for +healing, MP5, Stamina, and Int, in that order. Since I mostly do group stuff, I can afford to wear lighter armor if need be--I think I only have one cloth piece now, though--and just focus on the stats. +Healing is important for obvious reasons, Stamina keeps you from being one-shotted (esp. if you have to wear cloth), MP5 is mana regen you can actually use (unlike Spirit), and Int is simply a larger mana pool... (I'm guessing that stat priorities would be similar for Elemental, but with more focus on spell damage and crit and that sort of thing, instead of the +Heal.)
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As for which stats are important for an Enhancement Shaman, I'm guessing it would be Strength, Intellect, and Stamina, plus Agility and Attack Power. (Later on, MP5 more than Int, I believe.) Mana is still important, since you'll need it for shocks and totems even if you won't be doing a lot of healing or lightning bolts--don't go for spelldamage gear unless it really is an upgrade, though, since that's not such a big part of your damage, and it tends to be cloth gear. Umm... of the Gorilla stuff should be good for you, it's Strength and Intellect. Don't bother with Spirit at all, it might do more for Enhance shammies since they don't spend as much time casting, but I've never heard it recommended as something to look for on shammy gear.
Since you're looking at Resto, I can tell you a little bit about which stats are good for that--it's the spec I've played since level 19, anyway, so I know more about it than the others. I personally go for +healing, MP5, Stamina, and Int, in that order. Since I mostly do group stuff, I can afford to wear lighter armor if need be--I think I only have one cloth piece now, though--and just focus on the stats. +Healing is important for obvious reasons, Stamina keeps you from being one-shotted (esp. if you have to wear cloth), MP5 is mana regen you can actually use (unlike Spirit), and Int is simply a larger mana pool... (I'm guessing that stat priorities would be similar for Elemental, but with more focus on spell damage and crit and that sort of thing, instead of the +Heal.)
Edited, Apr 26th 2008 11:20am by isyris
Right now I have a level 63 Enhancement Shaman. As was said, the main way you are going to be manipulating stats is through what gear you put on. For Enhancement it breaks down like this:
Strength>Agility>AP>Stamina
Everything else is secondary. During early levels you won't find much +AP gear so don't worry about it. By the time you can manipulate things like +hit and +crit with gear your options will have opened up enough so you'll have an easier time with it. You might notice that if you're using a lot of shocks you run out of mana quickly, but don't panic and start loading up on Int gear. You're main purpose leveling with Enhancement is to do as much mellee DPS as possible with your weapon(s). This will become easier one you get Stormstrike, Windfury and can Dual Wield. Mana will become less of an issue the higher level you get.
Don't worry too much about enchanting your gear early on unless you have a level 70 funding you. Especially early on as the enchants won't make much difference. Although watch trade when you're in cities for Enchanters giving out free enchants while they train. This is a good way to get a little extra buff for free. The main thing that I concentrated on while leveling was to make sure that I had decent DPS blue weapon(s) every 10 levels or so. The other thing I did was enchant those weapons with Crusader. I was skeptical as to the usefulness of Crusader, until I started using it. It procs every fight, usually multiple times and when dual wielding, it stacks with itself. It can be kind of expensive without some other form of income, but it's worth it. I upgraded weapons about every 10 levels, even after level 40 (when I got dual wielding) and put Crusader on both weapons. IMO Crusader is superior to Potency (+20) because Crusader procs so often. I'd rather have +100-200 Strength most of the time than +40 Strength all of the time. Note that I have multiple level 70s funding my alts, so I had plenty of gold. Although I will say that I managed to have a few hundred gold on me at all times when I reached around level 40, so you might be able to save up for Crusader enchants.
My main advice is to read every guide you can find, but look for the updated ones, and learn...
Strength>Agility>AP>Stamina
Everything else is secondary. During early levels you won't find much +AP gear so don't worry about it. By the time you can manipulate things like +hit and +crit with gear your options will have opened up enough so you'll have an easier time with it. You might notice that if you're using a lot of shocks you run out of mana quickly, but don't panic and start loading up on Int gear. You're main purpose leveling with Enhancement is to do as much mellee DPS as possible with your weapon(s). This will become easier one you get Stormstrike, Windfury and can Dual Wield. Mana will become less of an issue the higher level you get.
Don't worry too much about enchanting your gear early on unless you have a level 70 funding you. Especially early on as the enchants won't make much difference. Although watch trade when you're in cities for Enchanters giving out free enchants while they train. This is a good way to get a little extra buff for free. The main thing that I concentrated on while leveling was to make sure that I had decent DPS blue weapon(s) every 10 levels or so. The other thing I did was enchant those weapons with Crusader. I was skeptical as to the usefulness of Crusader, until I started using it. It procs every fight, usually multiple times and when dual wielding, it stacks with itself. It can be kind of expensive without some other form of income, but it's worth it. I upgraded weapons about every 10 levels, even after level 40 (when I got dual wielding) and put Crusader on both weapons. IMO Crusader is superior to Potency (+20) because Crusader procs so often. I'd rather have +100-200 Strength most of the time than +40 Strength all of the time. Note that I have multiple level 70s funding my alts, so I had plenty of gold. Although I will say that I managed to have a few hundred gold on me at all times when I reached around level 40, so you might be able to save up for Crusader enchants.
My main advice is to read every guide you can find, but look for the updated ones, and learn...
Feydakyn wrote:
Right now I have a level 63 Enhancement Shaman. As was said, the main way you are going to be manipulating stats is through what gear you put on. For Enhancement it breaks down like this:
Strength>Agility>AP>Stamina
Strength>Agility>AP>Stamina
Close, but not quite. Strength translates into attack power at the rate of 1 STR = 2 AP. So... why do you have AP slotted two places down from Strength? I understand what you're saying about gear availability, but the fact that it's more abundant later on still wouldn't alter the overall rate of importance.
STR = AP > AGI = CRIT > STA.
Feydakyn wrote:
... a lot of stuff about a huge waste of money.
I really wish you hadn't brought this up at all.
To the OP: As it sounds like you're coming back to the game with a start completely from scratch, I would advise ignoring enchants altogether when leveling. As Fedakyn said, he has several 70's funding him, and he also failed to consider the cost of mounts at 40 and 60. If it's your first run through the game (or close to it) you're probably not going to have much money beyond what is absolutely necessary to get by. Enhancement Shaman level fast enough past their mid-40's anyways that you're just not going to need any help from enchants if your gear is even halfway decent.
The reason why I said AP at all is because you'll find a lot of +AP gear, especially early on doesn't have Strength on it. So it's important, but not as important as straight on Strength. A lot of the OL mail is based on Hunters and either has Strength as opposed to AP or AP as opposed to Strength. I guess what I'm trying to get at is don't choose an armor piece just because it has AP on it and gimp your strength stat, but don't neglect it either. As an aside, Strength also dictates how much extra damage you can block with a shield. So if you end up going with a 1H and shield setup for whatever reason, it helps there too.
You're right about that enchanting too. Even just the Crusader enchant is really pricey. I also farmed up the mats myself, so I saved myself about 130g per enchant. Still, it makes leveling so much faster. I'd definitely recommend it if you do BGs and definitely when you get up around level 60 when coming up with the gold isn't as much of an issue. That's when you want to start thinking about enchanting your other gear anyways.
You're right about that enchanting too. Even just the Crusader enchant is really pricey. I also farmed up the mats myself, so I saved myself about 130g per enchant. Still, it makes leveling so much faster. I'd definitely recommend it if you do BGs and definitely when you get up around level 60 when coming up with the gold isn't as much of an issue. That's when you want to start thinking about enchanting your other gear anyways.
Feydakyn wrote:
The reason why I said AP at all is because you'll find a lot of +AP gear, especially early on doesn't have Strength on it. So it's important, but not as important as straight on Strength. A lot of the OL mail is based on Hunters and either has Strength as opposed to AP or AP as opposed to Strength. I guess what I'm trying to get at is don't choose an armor piece just because it has AP on it and gimp your strength stat, but don't neglect it either. As an aside, Strength also dictates how much extra damage you can block with a shield. So if you end up going with a 1H and shield setup for whatever reason, it helps there too.
There is absolutely zero reason to ever prefer strength over AP, especially when leveling, unless you happen to only play with not one, but three Paladins. Blessing of Kings is the only reason to have strength over AP, and you should be getting Blessing of Salvation and Blessing of Might before you get Kings. Enhancement Shaman use a two-hander or two one-handers and Resto/Elemental Shaman can't block while casting, so preferring strength for shields is also quite pointless.
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The build isn't bad, but you've missed some key talents. Anticipation is useless, compared to imp GW, shamanistic focus or mental quickness. Also, remamber that you have 61 points, I recommend you to put the rest on resto. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hZ...MsAuqoxbez This build (mine) should give you an idea of what you want.
Edit: THIS http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hZxVbdVMsAuqoxbez was the build, I don't know how I copied the link.
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Edit: THIS http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hZxVbdVMsAuqoxbez was the build, I don't know how I copied the link.
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Fpicky wrote:
The build isn't bad, but you've missed some key talents. Anticipation is useless, compared to imp GW, shamanistic focus or mental quickness. Also, remamber that you have 61 points, I recommend you to put the rest on resto. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hZ...MsAuqoxbez This build (mine) should give you an idea of what you want.
I really hope that's not your build.
2 points in shield spec and 59 unspent?
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gaudion is right here don't spend your money on crap, save save save, you need your monies for spells and for your mounts.
he is also right about stats, really there is NO reason to prefer Str over AP until your 70 and in a 25 man raid with multiple paladins like guadion mentioned.
for leveling I would say you wan't your spec to look something like this after first 40 levels:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hZxV0zE0sV0o
50 levels:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hZxV0zE0sVuqo
at 70 you may want to respec and make your class better at straight forward dps and buffs, specially if you want to raid:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hZxVbdVMsAuqoV0ez
leaving you 2 points either Improved Reincarnation or Guardian Totems.
he is also right about stats, really there is NO reason to prefer Str over AP until your 70 and in a 25 man raid with multiple paladins like guadion mentioned.
for leveling I would say you wan't your spec to look something like this after first 40 levels:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hZxV0zE0sV0o
50 levels:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hZxV0zE0sVuqo
at 70 you may want to respec and make your class better at straight forward dps and buffs, specially if you want to raid:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hZxVbdVMsAuqoV0ez
leaving you 2 points either Improved Reincarnation or Guardian Totems.
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AHHHHH!!!! Wall of Texts Crits me for 51,154,486,532... I die.
I'm going to attempt to pick out some of your questions (although I'm sure it's been answered above, but all of these wall of texts are killing me):
Yes, an enhancement shaman is melee dps, and to do so, you've just got to put out as much damage as possible and take down a mob in as little time as possible.
DPS just means damage per second, or how much damage you cause a target. Pretty much, just wail away at something, throwing in some shocks, and you'll be dpsing. Not really hard... DPS = attack, attack, attack.
Yes, locks are a DPS class. And Dual wielding on a shaman can only be done from the enhancement tree. Otherwise, it's either a two-hander weapon or a one-hand and shield (or just one-hand if you want).
Imp GW is usually only good in PVP. So if you plan on doing that you may want to get it (especially in BGs, having it is good for flag carriers).
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And what does a enhacement shaman supposed to be doing? DPS-ing or something?
If a shaman is supposed to be DPS-ing how does he/she do it?
If a shaman is supposed to be DPS-ing how does he/she do it?
Yes, an enhancement shaman is melee dps, and to do so, you've just got to put out as much damage as possible and take down a mob in as little time as possible.
DPS just means damage per second, or how much damage you cause a target. Pretty much, just wail away at something, throwing in some shocks, and you'll be dpsing. Not really hard... DPS = attack, attack, attack.
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i think i've heard that warlocks are a DPS-ing class....So i've heard that when you reach lvl 40 you can dual wield.Is that only when you get the enhancement talent skill Dual Wield or can all talent trees get it?
Yes, locks are a DPS class. And Dual wielding on a shaman can only be done from the enhancement tree. Otherwise, it's either a two-hander weapon or a one-hand and shield (or just one-hand if you want).
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i get the Improved Ghost Wolf skill or is it useless?
Imp GW is usually only good in PVP. So if you plan on doing that you may want to get it (especially in BGs, having it is good for flag carriers).
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