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#1 Apr 23 2008 at 7:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Sorry to post again so soon guys, just one more question.
Ive got some badges to cash at new vendor and was wondering if anyone could explain in laymans terms, (or point me to somewhere that explains)how good items with "your attacks ignore ??? of your opponents armour" are for me.
Thanks in advance
#2 Apr 23 2008 at 8:06 AM Rating: Excellent
The really short answer: 100 ignore armor are roughly as good as 20 attack power.

With that in mind you should be able to compare items a lot easier.

If you are not into tier 6 content or beyond I would not worry to much about that stat. Take it if you get your hands on a nice item, but it is not very important.
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#4 Apr 23 2008 at 11:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks guys im sure its not just me who is gonna find that helpful
#5 Apr 24 2008 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Armor penetration gets a lot better as you get more of it, since it doesn't scale linearly. It's got a much lesser effect outside of raids, both because you can't count on full debuffs (Sunder, Faerie Fire, Curse of Recklessness) and because you can't get enough of it.

However, kitting yourself out in some major armor penetration is a pretty awesome damage increase. Take, for example, S3 helm, PvP badges cloak, leather chest from ZA, badges bracers, leather belt from ZA, badges or S3 legs, leather boots from MrT, badges ring, twin daggers from Hex Lord, and the bow from Zul'Jin. With that you're rocking about 1250 armor penetration without sacrificing *too* much in terms of other stats (main problem will be hit rating, and mana, but at that level your pallies should be judging wisdom and you should be chainchugging mana pots anywho), which is enough to completely inflate the value of armor penetration. I believe at that level it's more than double its value when you didn't have any.

EDIT: Hrm. I guess I with the set I just suggested you lose quite a bit of crit, I didn't think *that* much was lost, but comparing to one of my guild's hunter's (pretty much full ZA/T5/badges) it's about 10% crit difference, which is a lot. Stacking it might not be as good as I had though -_-

Edited, Apr 24th 2008 12:44pm by lsfreak
#6 Apr 24 2008 at 3:08 PM Rating: Good
lsfreak wrote:
EDIT: Hrm. I guess I with the set I just suggested you lose quite a bit of crit, I didn't think *that* much was lost, but comparing to one of my guild's hunter's (pretty much full ZA/T5/badges) it's about 10% crit difference, which is a lot. Stacking it might not be as good as I had though -_-

Edited, Apr 24th 2008 12:44pm by lsfreak


Stacking armor pen is not that good. You'll indeed loose quite some important stats. Take it when you get it cheap, don't stack it if it costs many other stats. (Yes, basically treat armor pen exactly as every other good stat).

Armor pen gets better the more you have, but the difference is not dramatic. However against low armor bosses, armor penetration can be a nice boost to your DPS.
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