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#1 Apr 22 2008 at 9:10 AM Rating: Good
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I'm putting together an attribute spreadsheet for my own use in making equipment decisions. I know there are tons of top-notch AEP spreadsheets out there for the various classes. But I want a quick reference one which covers all the classes. I have 10 characters and don't want to have to have tons of spreadsheets or links. Plus I like my formatting better. :-)

Wowwiki seems to indicate that Hunters receive .552% of ranged crit for every point of agility. This seems really high to me. Am I misunderstanding this number in some fashion?

Please help.
#2 Apr 22 2008 at 9:16 AM Rating: Good
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Note that agility increases your ranged attack power by 1 per point (and 1 for melee,) and roughly every 40 points of agility increases a hunter's critical rate by 1%. This crit rate conversion is specific to hunters, and is the worst of all the classes in the game.


From the sticky, so I am assuming the numbers are correct. If that is the case, then 1 point in agility would equal 1/40 percent chance to crit = 0.025%
#3 Apr 22 2008 at 10:04 AM Rating: Good
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Formula: 1 Agility = .552 Crit Rating = 1 Attack Power = 2.22 Intellect (assuming 3 points in Careful Aim)


This is the calculation which was confusing me so much on Wowwiki. Now that I look at it again it mentions that it may be outdated. It also shows the .025% formula in the little chart on the page. Not sure what happened to my reading comprehension....but it clearly failed me here.

1 AGI = .025% makes so much more sense to me. Thanks Zebug.
#4 Apr 22 2008 at 10:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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it's crit rating, which is not crit %. 22 crit rating gives you 1% crit, which makes .025%.

Edited, Apr 22nd 2008 1:45pm by Xsarus
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#5 Apr 22 2008 at 11:41 AM Rating: Good
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Ahhhh that is where I screwed up. Confused crit rating w/ crit percentage in that AEP formula. Thanks for pointing that out.

Does anyone else feel like they are back in math class when trying to figure out what armor/weapon to use? Oh for the noobish days of ignorance when I could just wear whichever one looked cooler.
#6 Apr 22 2008 at 11:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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You have no idea...if you can actually figure out what I was talking about here, I give you a cookie, sir.


It's 40 agi or 22 crit rating to get 1% crit, as others have said. If you want to talk about equivalency in terms of raw DPS, typically 1 agi is worth anywhere from 1.25 to 1.5 crit rating, depending on spec and gear.
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#7 Apr 22 2008 at 12:16 PM Rating: Good
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I don't get a cookie. My eyes glazed over about 7 paragraphs in. Doing my taxes was a pleasure compared to that level of number crunching.
#8 Apr 22 2008 at 12:26 PM Rating: Good
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OH ****. AZUARC IS BACK, EVERYBODY RUN.

*hides*
#9 Apr 22 2008 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Does anyone else feel like they are back in math class when trying to figure out what armor/weapon to use? Oh for the noobish days of ignorance when I could just wear whichever one looked cooler.


Don't ever to to Elitist Jerks then, your head might explode =D
#10 Apr 22 2008 at 11:58 PM Rating: Decent
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That's why I just use a Cheet Sheet.
#11 Apr 25 2008 at 1:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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OH sh*t. AZUARC IS BACK, EVERYBODY RUN.

*hides*


I'm not a mage. I don't nuke posters. I prefer to think of it as "Aimed Shotting" them.
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#12 Apr 25 2008 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Anyone else remember when we used Aimed in our rotations?
#13 Apr 26 2008 at 12:33 AM Rating: Good
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Yuppley wrote:
Anyone else remember when we used Aimed in our rotations?


I sure do. Weren't those the days? I remember when I first got Aimed Shot, I was so excited that I could do a 500 crit with it. I kinda wonder if kids these days still get excited over it when they first get it.
#14 Apr 26 2008 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
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just got it at level 61 and was excited about it. I use it once in a while to see big numbers....I like big numbers.
#15 Apr 26 2008 at 11:51 PM Rating: Decent
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zebug wrote:
just got it at level 61 and was excited about it. I use it once in a while to see big numbers....I like big numbers.
You're playing the wrong class than :P
Hunters never get to see proper big numbers.

Hell, the biggest crit I have ever had was something like 4.1-4.2k on an aimed shot........ on a critter...
My steadies crit for a little over 2k raidbuffed, my lvl 63 shamans lightning bolts crit for 1.7-1.8k.
#16 Apr 27 2008 at 5:28 AM Rating: Decent
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zebug wrote:
just got it at level 61 and was excited about it. I use it once in a while to see big numbers....I like big numbers.


If you like big numbers roll a warrior. Pop Recklessness with a full rage bar when exicute pops. and lay those things down. you can get like 4 exicutes off maybe even more before your Recklessness is up.
#17 Apr 27 2008 at 11:29 AM Rating: Good
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I was at my friends house and his warlock got a 25K shadowbolt crit on curator.

My best damage is probably against netherspite at the end of a phase in the blue beam. The numbers start getting really big.
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#18 Apr 27 2008 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I think locks can get Curse of Dooms up to 40-50k.....
Seriously overpowered.



Then again, I do end up topping dps for most fights i enter :)
(stuff like hyjal trash not ofcourse, although i was 5th there late last night, 2 lock and 2 mages ahead of me)
#19 Apr 28 2008 at 1:08 AM Rating: Good
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I think locks can get Curse of Dooms up to 40-50k.....
Seriously overpowered.

Yes, locks can get some really big numbers there, but usually the most locks have to curse elements, CoR or shadow, thus you won't see many curse of dooms during a standard raid.

Aethien wrote:

Then again, I do end up topping dps for most fights i enter :)
(stuff like hyjal trash not ofcourse, although i was 5th there late last night, 2 lock and 2 mages ahead of me)


And that is the reason why I seriously hate Hyjal. All those AOE classes doing 2k-4k dps at trash while I'm kiting some stupid mob around doing perhaps 500-700dps during trash. But at bosses it is time for payback :-)

Hunters do not have big nukes, but it is funny to have some crit series pumping out some 5-10 2.5-3k crits in a row.
I have the funniest times at Sunwell trash at the moment. With the weapon coating I can get up to 3.6k RAP (+ 300AP expose weakness and ~250AP hunters mark). It is real fun to nuke away without blessing of salvation. Riding the aggrocap and timing feign death is real fun (or at least it keeps me awake when fighting trash).
#20 Apr 28 2008 at 4:11 AM Rating: Decent
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dinged 62, got steady shot and don't think I'll ever use aimed again. Well maybe for a misdirect later on I guess, but I don't have it yet. And I must say, it is SWEEEET!!!

Oh and I have a destro lock to satisfy my big number addiction. If my friends ever go to horde again, then my mage will take over (but now that undead is rotting away even more than he was)
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