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#1 Apr 21 2008 at 2:17 PM Rating: Good
I am a pretty casual player. I am in a very small group that is running Kara on weekends, but I have only participated a couple times. Mostly into running 5-mans and PvP battlegrounds at the moment. I can't seem to survive more than a few seconds in Arena. :(

Armory is down at the moment (Novastar, on Silvermoon), but I am 2/0/59, have Spellstrike set (but no tailoring bonus), S1 gloves + Staff + Vbelt, Boots of Blasphemy, and a collection of L70 blues for the rest mostly. 375 Herb/Transmute Alch

Have a couple questions for opinion based on my play habits and possibilities going forward.

a) Should I seriously consider powerlevelling Tailoring at this late point in the game in order to improve my gear?

b) As an alternative to tailoring, would PvPing for S1 gear instead be sufficient, and then casually run heroics/Kara?

c) If I do switch to Tailoring, should I stick with Frost and go Frozen Shadoweave, or switch to fire/arc and Spellfire? (NOTE: Spellfire set overlaps the two S1 pieces that I already have, gloves and belt).

I don't foresee ever doing SSC/TK or anything like that anytime soon, so raiding higher than Kara is not really a factor. Like I said, I'm more into PvP and 5-mans for badges.

Hate to drop Herbs since it's a source of cash and good for the occasional potion/primal life. I don't really see any other way to improve though.

Would appreciate any constructive feedback, outside of the usual frost vs. fire holy war.

--Novastar
#2 Apr 21 2008 at 2:47 PM Rating: Good
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Starxed wrote:
frost vs. fire holy war

Hehe this made me picture a healing mage. You know, like frost vs. fire vs. holy war...you know like if the third mage tree was holy instead of arc... Anyways...

In short:
a) No
b) Partially
c) Yes, depending

Longer:
a)
Frozen Shadoweave isn't worth power-leveling for unless you're just looking for ways to spend your online time or have tons of gold. Still, Tailoring isn't really that hard to level, so if you have the gold and/or friends who are willing to help ya grind the cloth, then this may not be such a strong no.

b)
For the most part, yes. If you want to be a jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none, gem/enchant your PvP gear with +hit and sub in Robe of Crimson Order. The first boss in Kara drops gloves with +hit: Handwraps. Since you're not doing Arena, you can get away with this and still have fun pee vee peein' (BGs).

c)
Spellfire for fire PvE mages >> FSW for frost PvE mages. That said, you may not like what you find in BGs as arc/fire. It can be fun, but as I'm sure you know, POM/Pyro isn't all the boomboom it used to be.

Now I'll click post and enjoy the corrections Pol and Anobix post to my post. ;)

edit: lulz coulda sworn the Handwraps had inherent +hit. Oh well, socket bonus will have to do. Need to L2readtooltips.
edit again: i'm seriously retarded. no more posting at work for me.

Edited, Apr 21st 2008 6:52pm by AynLoD
#3 Apr 21 2008 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
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If you seriously want to PvP, get some PvP gear separate from your instance gear. Either go to arena under the assumption you won't get very good ratings until you get better gear, or farm BG's. The only place you can regularly get away using raiding/instance gear in PvP is AV, and only if you stay with the masses and try and blend in. In the smaller BG's and any arena's, it will be very easily to tell that's you're squishy as hell, which is why you last only a few seconds in arena - everyone can see you're squishy, so they target you first.
#4 Apr 22 2008 at 6:03 AM Rating: Good
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It really depends on what you want to do. If you want to arena, then you need to focus on getting a full PvP set for the stamina and resilience, otherwise you will get your goose cooked in arena. FSW and Spellfire won't do you much good in the arena -- as others have said, people can recognize this as PvE gear, and they will focus you and fry you pretty quickly.

If you want to do BGs, you have a lot more flexibility, although you still want to build up a PvP set of gear for that, because although the the gearing levels are often not quite as competitive as the arena, nevertheless you will see a lot of people in the BGs with arena gear, and again, if you end up being focused by them you will go down fast. AV is the big exception to that, because of the sheer number of people, the chaos, and the ability you have as a mage to hang back and pick targets -- in AV, I often go in wearing my Spellfire set and just roast/blast people away at range, pretty much ending up very near the top of the KB and with only a few deaths. AV is the mage's playground, as far as BGs go.

For PvE, as others have said FSW is not as useful for a frostie as Spellfire is for a fire/arcanist.
#5 Apr 22 2008 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
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One thing you can do for PvP gear is get it from the reputation vendors. There was a bunch of blues that are available for simply honored reputation (which you can usually do with just questing/leveling)...Use that for BGs till you get some honor built up, otherwise you're just a free HK.
#6 Apr 22 2008 at 11:17 AM Rating: Good
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ktangent wrote:
One thing you can do for PvP gear is get it from the reputation vendors. There was a bunch of blues that are available for simply honored reputation (which you can usually do with just questing/leveling)...Use that for BGs till you get some honor built up, otherwise you're just a free HK.


I love this gear. It makes BGs a blast.
With it, I also use a cape that drops from MgT, has resilience on it and stuff.
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