Rotation/DPS questionFollow

I've noticed something lately on bosses and it's been bugging me.

For most of my PvE experience(with the exception of the last 2-3 weeks) I've been either combat maces or mutilate. While I was combat maces, and had my 2pc t4 bonus, wI would use the usual 1s/5r rotation, and once I started getting t5, the spreadsheet said I should change to 3s/5r, with which I never had a problem.

Since I've gotten my 4pc t5, and have respecced combat swords, the spreadsheet changed to 4s/5r, which seems pretty much unattainable, unless I get a lucky string of combat potency procs. Either SnD goes down for 1-3 seconds, or rupture is down for 2-5 seconds. The problem presents itself more if there is a boss that requires a lot of movement.

With the advent of the new badge vendor, I've been given some freedom to switch some gear up. I have already purchased the badge legs(even just equipping this is a bigger dps than my t5 legs, _and_ my 4pc bonus), and was thinking about getting the chest.

Changing my t5 chest for the t4 chest, and the t5 shoulders for t4, I come up to 1552(alleged) dps, with a 1s/5r rotation.

Or, I can go with the Tunic of the Dark Hour, and the Shoulderpads of the Stranger which (still allegedly) should give me 1580 dps, but still remains 4s/5r.

If I am not keeping up SnD and rupture, then I'm not hitting my 1580 mark, yet I never had issues with keeping 1s/5r.

Would it be a sound assumption to keep my t4 pieces on during encounters with a lot of movement, and put my new chest and shoulders on for stationary fights(VR, Tidewalker, Kael), or is it just me thinking too much?

Reasonable assumption, and yes, that's what I'd do.

Edit: Tyr, your spreadsheet is probably set to 7685 armor for bosses--make sure you're setting the armor appropriate to the bosses you're doing. Also, in the buffs section, make sure you're including all the buffs you normally get. My sheet was missing LotP, which puts me up to ~1536 buffed DPS as ShS on the bosses I usually fight (6200--most of Kara/ZA).

Edited, Apr 21st 2008 2:54pm by Theophany

Yeah, the group I usually get is rogue/ret pally/feral/enhancement/warrior.

Pretty much best possible situation for a rogue.

maxdps.com is trash, pretty much.

Put everything into the rogue spreadsheet when you get home and tell us what it says your buffed DPS is.

Also, it helps to know what kind of buffs you're getting. I'm getting pretty much every DPS buff possible, and I'm socketing to the best of my potential. I noticed on maxdps that they had you socketing Agi or some **** like that.

You should never be socketing straight Agi or AP unless you're hit capped or are specced ShS.

It's a poor website, to say the least when there are much better resources out there.

Shouldn't matter that it's T5 or above as long as he puts in the correct buffs/armor values.

Spreadsheet dps is the amount you do on a boss where you are dpsing all the time. There are like 3-4 bosses like this in game.

Guess I got it figured out, says 1579.1 dps.

Also says I should be using 5s/5r >_>

I guess I at least learned how to use the spreadsheat properly from all of this >_>

Edited, Apr 21st 2008 9:22pm by Tyrandor

Can someone please tell me what '1s/5r' or '4s/5r' etc is ?

I think I am on the right track with like a 1 point Sinister Strike or Slice n Dice and then a 5 point rupture, but it still to me seems wrong...probably because I am wrong.

Could anyone tell me what this means?

Ah okay, thanks.
I knew I was on the right track, just couldn't pick it.

He meant Sanctity Aura.

As sub I usually Premed-ShS-Garrote-BLB-Hemo-Rupture.

Gives me two nice big dots ticking at the start.

With Initiative I am getting up to 3CP from Garotte. And with Camouflage I move quite fast in stealth too. Pretty nice opening.
Hmm, I actually don't know where the 3rd CP is coming from... uh?

Would it really make that much of a difference?

I did Garotte/1s/5s/5r last raid, and it worked just fine.

Since we always have Mangle up, and Garotte ignores armor, I always figured it was better dps and dpe then a sinister strike.