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#1 Apr 20 2008 at 11:57 PM Rating: Good
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I have two, perhaps rather noobie, questions. I have read the FAQ under the 'Pet Related Questions' heading but found no answer(curse you misleading title!).

1) I have looked through the stats on my character screen, I have searched this wonderful website, I've even done a DPS meter field study, but have yet to come up with a solid answer. Is there a stat that a hunter takes to increase his pets critical strike percentage or is Ferocity the only way to do so?

2) Does growl scale with any particular stat(such as strength, agility,..can't think of a third) or is it only effected(or is it affected../sigh) by the current rank you are using?

Thanks for the help and I apologize if these questions were answered before. Posting at 2:51am while putting off a history paper due at 9:00am. Ahh, the life of an addict.

Edit: Spelling. Darn the quick proofread after already hitting 'Post Message'

Edited, Apr 21st 2008 2:58am by Serevixx
#2 Apr 21 2008 at 12:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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1: Only talents can improve your pets crit%
2: Growl scales with your pets attack power.
#3 Apr 21 2008 at 12:45 AM Rating: Good
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Exactly what I needed to know :D Rate up.

Btw, is there an exact ratio to increase my pets AP? Such as 1 STR = 2 AP, or the like?
#4 Apr 21 2008 at 1:09 AM Rating: Good
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Your pets AP scales with your AP...
Its actually part of what is f*cked up about our mechanics at the moment.
Your pet will be able to keep up with your threat with your rise of AP, but since pets dont scale with crit, the more crit you have the worse your pets is at holding aggro for you.
(wich royally screws SV hunters...)

As for the question, petopia probably has the answer....
#5 Apr 21 2008 at 1:29 AM Rating: Good
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Ahh, I see. Once again, thanks for the light you shed on the subject. Nice to know that it does, in fact, scale with our stats. I've been hearing (and seeing) level 70 hunters pull threat off of a mob with a few shots. Now, even as a BM spec, I -can- do this but, seeing as how I often forget to turn off my Omen2 threat meter from last night's heroic\raid, I have my screen flashing red if I get too close to threat line.

Now, as you said, the fact that Sunshine(my yellow pig) won't be getting any more crit is quite disheartening. I assume I will really pile on the crit nearing end-game which will, most definitely, be quite aweful for our tank\dps relationship. Does a vast increase in our crit% ruin our ability to endlessly PvE grind with -hardly- a need to ever stop?


For those of you keeping score at home..4:30am. Still haven't started paper.

Edited, Apr 21st 2008 4:31am by Serevixx
#6 Apr 21 2008 at 1:46 AM Rating: Good
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I havent had much trouble soloing yet, not as SV either.
It just takes a bit of a different approach, sending my pet to 1 target, pulling a second to kite/kill, even getting a 3rd to trap if you are grinding in a busy area.
It makes for much more challenging and fun grinding, and its an easy way to chase off the competition if you are the first to reach nearly every single mob :)
#7 Apr 21 2008 at 2:10 AM Rating: Good
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Ahh, I see your game. I do something to that effect(though not often). When grinding quest mobs in crowded area, or just creatures who enjoy roaming, I'll send pet to attack(charge off at this point). Once he engages I pull a second with a Serpent Sting(low aggro). Mob gets close, send boar to mob(hence why I make sure charge is not on cooldown)and intimidate to get aggro buffer.

Depending on the level of the mob, I'll dps the first target as he usually will stay on my pet til nearly dead if mob is +1-2 levels. I normally find myself fighting Orange leveled mobs which, if I remember correctly, are +3. For those I will switch back Sunshine to the original target after Intimidation.

If I, by some stroke of luck, see another needed mob come close to my range it's trap time. I normally do those with a Scorpid Sting for some reason

Of course, if things get ugly, and Sunshine starts complaining, I'll pop Bestial Wrath to quicken things up\re-establish aggro on my cuddly tank. I don't do this as often as I could\should but, then again, you wouldn't want your best friend complaining how red makes him look fat while trying to explain that your are -sure- it was the damage increase that made him look that way in the screenshot. /sigh. The things hunters deal with that you never hear about.
#8 Apr 21 2008 at 2:51 AM Rating: Good
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Ugh. Growl doesn't scale nearly enough. As BM, my normal raiding gear has me about about 390 tooltip DPS, 1860 AP and 26% crit unbuffed. I have to switch out my Parrot of flowery doom with the bow from prince, and use cheapy white arrows instead of Timeless arrows for my pet to even have a CHANCE of holding aggro against me.

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Edit: Spelling. Darn the quick proofread after already hitting 'Post Message'


I have the same problem. If my posts don't say Edited, date time by ProjectMidnight, it means that I just didn't bother to reread my post.
#9 Apr 21 2008 at 2:57 AM Rating: Good
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I'm thinking you are probably right on the money with this one. High AP at 70 seems very easy to get. As do high damaging ranged weapons(with mainly time spent to farm BGs).

Let me throw this one at you guys. With the higher hp values of Outland mobs I'm assuming(could be my problem) that a hunter could pretty efficiently juggle Bestial Wrath one mob, Intimidation the next, add in a little travel time. Okay, I know it isn't perfect but you get the idea. How viable would that be?

Oh, and not entirely sure if this would work but could you maybe throw in a misdirected <Insert Highest Threat Shot Here> to your pet?



and for those still keeping track of my paper. It's 6:15. 2hr 45min til turn in. I've just began on the research.

Edited, Apr 21st 2008 6:19am by Serevixx
#10 Apr 21 2008 at 4:39 AM Rating: Good
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If any of you out there found yourself overwhelmed in curiosity about my paper...DING! It's finished. Yet another scholarship saved by the graces of insomnia.
#11 Apr 21 2008 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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Serevixx wrote:

Let me throw this one at you guys. With the higher hp values of Outland mobs I'm assuming(could be my problem) that a hunter could pretty efficiently juggle Bestial Wrath one mob, Intimidation the next, add in a little travel time. Okay, I know it isn't perfect but you get the idea. How viable would that be?

Oh, and not entirely sure if this would work but could you maybe throw in a misdirected <Insert Highest Threat Shot Here> to your pet?


Well, I don't quite understand what you're talking about in the first paragraph, but I'll make my own assumption that you're trying to take on multiple mobs by hitting one with intimidation, another with a misdirect on your pet, and then eating through a third one while you have BW going?

Absolutely viable. Pull in 2-3 more mobs by trapping one and kite another.

And my favorite way to use Misdirection is with this macro:

#showtooltip
/cast [target=focus,help][help][target=pet,exists,nodead] Misdirection

If you have a focus set, it'll cast MD on your focus (if it's friendly), or if you don't have a focus, it'll cast on your target, if friendly. If you have no target, or you're on a monster, it'll cast to your pet. It's a really great osht button. I use it often.
#12 Apr 21 2008 at 5:36 PM Rating: Good
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I didn't really notice how jumbled that whole thought process was til I reread it. What I was talking about was pulling 1 at a time but using said abilities as the threat buffer since pulling off pet supposedly gets insanely easy at 70.

Viable? Why or why not? (Thought I'd throw in some SAT lingo to really make ya think :P)

Oh! Almost forgot, thank you for the advise on multi-mob tanking. I have written down the macro for next time I log into game :D Rate up


Edit: Forgot my manners

Edited, Apr 21st 2008 8:38pm by Serevixx
#13 Apr 22 2008 at 10:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Serevixx wrote:
Btw, is there an exact ratio to increase my pets AP? Such as 1 STR = 2 AP, or the like?

Make sure you don't start stacking str to buff your pet :D Agi and plain AP do the job nicely. Nothing else to nitpick about.
#14 Apr 22 2008 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
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Haha, I wasnt about to start stacking any str at all :P My Ice Barbed Spear probaby has the most str I'll ever have equipped :D
#15 Apr 24 2008 at 9:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Growl will be even worse in 2.4.2 when it will no longer scale with AP.
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