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#1 Apr 15 2008 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
Magi, we are being screwed. In pve one of the goals of an endgame raider is to see lush dungeons and fight epic bosses. The other is to get decked out in epics.
Unfortunatly our epic armor isn't so epic we move up from a clown suit to a dress with matching colors. Now others would say that as a clothie we should expect to wear a dress.
Now I would concede but look at our clothie brethren the priests and warlocks.(you share a commonality with a lock deal with it.) The warlocks have horns, wings, void-like masks and my personal favorite their T3 poison tree frog set. Priests have a archangel thing going on with glowing light, wings, and a cool t5 headpiece. But to top it all off they have an awesome t6 with awesome shoulder pads and a hood that makes you look like a jedi.
Their gear sets show who they are as a class. For the warlock death, fear and shadow. For the priest light, salvation and a solomn sense of duty. Mages should have sets showing mystery, fire and ice. (Yes I am aware that the t3 frostfire is amazing and fills the ice one.)
So pardon my anger when I say a purple rocketship doesn't cut it for t6.

-mages for the win
#2 Apr 15 2008 at 8:43 PM Rating: Decent
The only really good one that mages have gotten was the t4, which, although plain upon first inspection, turns out to really bring out the inner color of mages. I like the season 1 glad best, red aldor set.

I guess t5 isnt bad either, but it's just that it's got bad shoulderpads, it all depends on the shoulders.

The rest? t1 - cancer cell-look, t2 - plain, t3 - too messed up, t6 - ***** hed?

But yeah, if you want my advice, reroll a warlock.
#3 Apr 15 2008 at 9:12 PM Rating: Decent
I'm not complaining about mages they are the coolest class in the game. I just think Blizz needs to give us cooler armor next time around. And I have one word for your sugjestion about re-rolling a lock: Heresy!
#4 Apr 15 2008 at 9:20 PM Rating: Decent
I rerolled a rogue and that was the best idea ever. I was stressing over my keybinds as a mage, getting a 5-buttoned mouse, changing my movement keys to TFGH (FLBR) just to get more space.

But yes, i still love the mage class, armor sets are horribly designed? Agreed. Will we get better looking sets the next time round? Well, judging from 6 tier armor sets, a few non-set armors, a few dungeon armor sets and .5 armor sets, warlord sets, gladiator sets, and none of that even surpasses a 5/10 rating...

No, we probably wont be seeing a nicely designed mage set anytime soon.
#5 Apr 15 2008 at 9:21 PM Rating: Good
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T4 looks nifty by itself. T5 is the robes of the Tirisfallen, the council who created the Guardian of Tirisfal position many years ago. And say what you like, but I really love the Mage T6 armor. I can't stand Warlock T6, though.
#6 Apr 15 2008 at 9:38 PM Rating: Default
Omg, how does this post relate to 'rerolling'seriously mages own, if your not skilled GET SKILLED :P (rouges are are a piece of **** if your good enough)

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I rerolled a rogue and that was the best idea ever. I was stressing over my keybinds as a mage, getting a 5-buttoned mouse, changing my movement keys to TFGH (FLBR) just to get more space.


Do you just press 2 buttons as a rouge?

Edited, Apr 16th 2008 1:41am by Seguris
#7 Apr 15 2008 at 9:47 PM Rating: Decent
Actually, I have my bindings back to RDFG, which is what I prefer, since i can still reach shift and tab from there.

Rogues are abit more complicated than you'd think. But I just like the stealth.
#8 Apr 15 2008 at 11:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I love how the design for new tier gear lost all its pride.
t,2,3 were great and said something, even the mages.
t4,5,6 not even close to coolness. Then on top of that, so glad they just changed the color and made it pvp gear too. I agree mages usually have the worst looking gear, but so far in TBC everyone is losing there garb appeal. Maybe there just waiting untill gear is as hard to obtain again before making it shout again.
#9 Apr 16 2008 at 8:26 AM Rating: Decent
i always cover up my hideous robes with a cool looking tabard =P
but i think T4 and season 2 look cool
and i kinda like the shoulders on season three/t6
#10 Apr 16 2008 at 8:53 AM Rating: Good
My fave mage armors have been T5 and T6 is starting to grow on me... maybe because I have the helm now :-)
#11 Apr 16 2008 at 12:02 PM Rating: Default
While I'll agree that the lock sets look awesom, I can also understand why they made the mage sets more "plain". As a lock you are always the same no matter the spec.. shadow damage (yes, with some fire).

But what would you expect the T6 to look like when a mage wearing it can be 3 totally different specs. I'm sure we could all think of a cool looking fire set, as well as ice, and arcane. But finding somthing that works for all 3 would be really hard. The only way I could think to fix it would be for mages to have 2 or 3 different sets like hybrid classes have, but that would probably create more issues. Blizz would put different stats on them and respecing would be all but a lost cause.

Well.. come to think of it...

They could leave the +damage the same and just change some crit, +int around and maybe some different set bonuses...
#12 Apr 16 2008 at 2:45 PM Rating: Good
DarkHybridX wrote:
While I'll agree that the lock sets look awesom, I can also understand why they made the mage sets more "plain". As a lock you are always the same no matter the spec.. shadow damage (yes, with some fire).

But what would you expect the T6 to look like when a mage wearing it can be 3 totally different specs. I'm sure we could all think of a cool looking fire set, as well as ice, and arcane. But finding somthing that works for all 3 would be really hard. The only way I could think to fix it would be for mages to have 2 or 3 different sets like hybrid classes have, but that would probably create more issues. Blizz would put different stats on them and respecing would be all but a lost cause.

Well.. come to think of it...

They could leave the +damage the same and just change some crit, +int around and maybe some different set bonuses...


Mages need to face it, other than the 4-piece t5 and 4-piece t6 our set bonuses are terrible.
#13 Apr 16 2008 at 3:19 PM Rating: Good
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Anobix the Wise wrote:
Mages need to face it, other than the 4-piece t5 and 4-piece t6 our set bonuses are terrible.


2pc T6 isn't bad. It's not great, but it's not bad.

And I loved the bonuses on T2(well, the 3pc and 8pc bonuses). Not that I ever got them, but I loved them all the same.
#14 Apr 16 2008 at 8:35 PM Rating: Decent
Anobix wrote:
Mages need to face it, other than the 4-piece t5 and 4-piece t6 our set bonuses are terrible.


Actually the set bonuses aren't bad at all. Just pointless. The 2 peice T4 bonus is really good, but of no use for what the set is intented to do. The 2 piece T5 is really good, if just going fire wasn't a better option.

Basicly the bonuses no longer help out the mechanics of a mage. But once again that's due to how mages are set up. The bonuses help out a certian spec more then others. "5% more shadow damage" will help out a lock no matter what spec they are.

Plus mages have changed so much that what was good then may not be good now. When TBC came out mana wasn't as much of a issue as it is now (note: AS MUCH). Would I give up the 2 peice T5 bonus in place of say a MP15? Sure I would. But that wasn't the case 8 months ago.

But while sittin around today with a cold I thought about my last comment a little bit and here's what I came up with. Three different tier sets for fire, arcane, and frost. You can use your imaganation for how they would look. All the sets would have +spell damage (not +fire, ect). Fire would have some dropped +int for more crit. Arcane would have less crit but lots more +int. Frost would be in the middle of the two. Set bonuses could be lots of useful things. Some MP10, mana back on crit, haste, dots, casting time... hell, make the 4 peice arcane T6 be like a built in MSD.

I dunno, I think I just want some armor that makes me look like i'm always on fire.

#15 Apr 17 2008 at 5:57 AM Rating: Decent
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I believe mage tier gear is a lot more than just the stats and bonuses. Sure, that's why you go for them, but they're sometimes just difficult to obtain. This creates a sense of pride and achievement when one actually DOES get a piece or a set bonus. That being said, you want to show yourself off to other people. This does not work if the set pieces look like clown costumes from the Mesozoic era.
The thing I like best about the other classes' tier sets is that you can actually recognize them by their helms and stuff. I mean, you click on an Alliance baddie, and you see the arena helm on their profile. That's unique to warriors alone, and actually intimidates others. So far I can recognize priests, locks, warriors, hunters, and paladins just by profiles. What do we get? Nothing, it pisses me off to see a BE with some weird ring around his head, and having to mouse over said head to find out that he's actually a little mage.
Blizz, give us some style! Make us more recognizable, so we actually have a face in the battle of classes! And for God's sake, make robes that don't look hideous.
#16 Apr 17 2008 at 7:19 AM Rating: Good
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lonerlien wrote:
What do we get? Nothing, it pisses me off to see a BE with some weird ring around his head, and having to mouse over said head to find out that he's actually a little mage.
Blizz, give us some style! Make us more recognizable, so we actually have a face in the battle of classes! And for God's sake, make robes that don't look hideous.


Say what you want about mage armor sets, but you can't say that T6/S3 helms are unrecognizable. The helm is, as they say in the OOT, HUEG LIEK XBOX.
#17 Apr 17 2008 at 7:45 AM Rating: Default
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#18 Apr 17 2008 at 10:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Priest T6 is hands down the best-looking set (about time, tired of looking like a faerie), followed closely by Judgement. I think Blizzard is limited to one awesome set per expansion, with a few good sets following, and a majority of ones that make you want to laugh (pally T4, T5, T6 anyone?).
Mage and warlock T6 helms both look ridiculous. T5 looks a lot better for both of them, unfortunately.

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Mages need to face it, other than the 4-piece t5 and 4-piece t6 our set bonuses are terrible.

2pT5 still has some interest in guilds not yet at 4pT6 level. Between a shammy, JoW, a shadow priest, full consumables, and the change to regen, a 40/0/21 mage should be able to chain AB for 90-120 seconds straight before switching over to Fbolt/AB rotations, which is damn good burst damage. Especially once you have fights down and you are spending more than half the fight chaining AB.
#19 Apr 17 2008 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
lsfreak wrote:
Priest T6 is hands down the best-looking set (about time, tired of looking like a faerie), followed closely by Judgement. I think Blizzard is limited to one awesome set per expansion, with a few good sets following, and a majority of ones that make you want to laugh (pally T4, T5, T6 anyone?).
Mage and warlock T6 helms both look ridiculous. T5 looks a lot better for both of them, unfortunately.

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Mages need to face it, other than the 4-piece t5 and 4-piece t6 our set bonuses are terrible.

2pT5 still has some interest in guilds not yet at 4pT6 level. Between a shammy, JoW, a shadow priest, full consumables, and the change to regen, a 40/0/21 mage should be able to chain AB for 90-120 seconds straight before switching over to Fbolt/AB rotations, which is damn good burst damage. Especially once you have fights down and you are spending more than half the fight chaining AB.


It's true, but I am stating that mostly compared to other classes set bonuses, mages are bad. The warlock t6 bonuses are both amazing (hp when dots tick and increased shadow damage).

I personally think that the shaman t6 looks the best, followed closely by priests.
#20 Apr 17 2008 at 7:29 PM Rating: Good
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DarkHybridX wrote:
I dunno, I think I just want some armor that makes me look like i'm always on fire.


Warlocks have always looked good in their Tier sets, and warriors have for the latter half. Priests now have a distinct coolness, while druids and shamans had ups and downs. Pallies have always been laughingstock (except for the fricken' best-looking gear in the game, Tier 2 Judgment), etcetera.

Mages have had... recognizable... armor. It's distinct and different, but it's also not...

cool.


They've silly hats. Tier 4 and 5, while appropriate-looking, are not spectacular like the the most recent priest sets and the amazing warlock sets. Mages aren't as stupid-looking as paladins in Tier gear, but they could use a set that really shows off their stuff. A fiery set always burning, or a chilling blue set that has a blue mist always being given off at the feet (think Skeletal Warhorse haze), that would be pretty neat.



But this is all just aesthetics. The set bonuses need to be looked at, sure.

But good gear usually has good looks to match.
#21 Apr 17 2008 at 7:33 PM Rating: Good
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Actually, a lot fewer of the T6 bonuses are amazing than you'd think. The warlock 2-piece is worthless: destro won't ever get it to proc, afflic doesn't need it to proc, and either way health procs for warlocks are misplaced to begin with, they don't need health they need mana.

The two-piece on warrior tanks, kitties, balance, enhance, healing priest, mage, warlock, and hunter are all nothing worth getting excited about and some of them are downright worthless. The 4-piece are almost all in the "godly" range, except for druid healing and ret.
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