Good Ret weapon??Follow

I have been using the Crystalforged War Axe for some time now and the damage output of it is nice I was looking around the AH for cheap stuff to buy and resell on my bank alt and came across this mace The Hammer of Destiny. http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=31322;source=live

My question is, for 600g buyout with mongoose on it would it make a really nice Ret weapon or not? I like the chance at mana returns to help with going OOM.

Does a pally care much about the agi from mongoose? Seems a strange enchant to put on a weapon intended for a pally.

Regardless, these days the answer to any "I'm level 70 and my <insert class here> needs a better weapon" question is: BG and BG some more to get old Arena gear.

Edited, Apr 15th 2008 5:19pm by AynLoD

Well the 120 agi from mongoose is about 5% crit, which for retri should be good as not only is a crit good dps, but it also procs other stuff too. The comments seem to imply its ppm so it should be just as good on a 2hander.

As for the weap, its ok, speed is nice and slow, and the str is nice, however it lacks crit and hit, making it nowhere near as good as the easily obtainable Gladiator's Greatsword But if you aren't pvp inclined then i'd say go for it, gold is so easy to come by that 600g is only a couple of day's worth of dailies.

Edited, Apr 15th 2008 7:23pm by Tinyknight

Edited, Apr 15th 2008 7:23pm by Tinyknight

i was actually impressed when i scrolled over the link. thats a great starter mace. 600g is peanuts with a goose chant already embedded.

to me, Stormherald is still the definitive pally mace til you can get your hands on http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?source=live;witem=40603

Already has Mongoose on it? Buy that sexy thing up now! ***** PvP =P

Anyway, gonna hijack here a bit, but didn't want to make a new post:

I've got Gorehowl with a Mongoose enchant right now, but I recently noticed that they changed the stats on Hammer of the Naaru. If I ever go back to Grull's Lair, would it be good to pick up this puppy, or keep my Gorehowl? Little less strength, and no agility, but could that be made up with the gems and be worth trading in for the intellect?

EDIT: messed up link >.<

Edited, Apr 15th 2008 7:57pm by Maulgak

My Ret kit is Hit capped so I'll just stick with Gorehowl :) ty

even though they are rated the same DPS, the slower weapon with higher max damage will put out more DPS for a ret pally, and add about 2% to your proc chance of SoComm. plus it has haste to bring it back in line to the twin blades speed.

but you loose out on some awsome stat of the twin blade. . . thats really a tough question to answer

What about with Seal of Blood? I guess I figured the Torch of the Damned was a bit better, but the Sword of the Phoenix just looks damn cool! Was hoping you'd all convince me otherwise...to go with the Phoenix! :)

With 3 Bold Rubies, it basically comes down to: is 50 haste and .2 slower speed worth giving up 48AP (from buffed strength)?

To which the answer is: @#%^ yes.

Edited, Apr 18th 2008 12:13am by lsfreak

I believe Torch would win out is what people are saying. Besides, after all that, wouldn't the strength on Torch make it scale better with BoKings on? That is of course assuming you have the needed number of Paladins to where you'll be getting Kings :)

to the OP i'd have to agree that PVP'ing for the Gladiator's Greatsword (or the mace) would be the better option. however, if you're as against PVP'ing as i am but better at making gold than i am you could definitely get that mace. its a good mace and doesn't even look like they factored mongoose into their price... if so they undervalued it... either way its a good buy and a decent weapon till you either get the S1 weapon or a better raid drop mace. took me almost 3 weeks to get the honor for the gladiator's weapon cause i hate PVP.. i wish i'd have had the g for that mace.