Improving my SV specFollow

Hey, it's me again. I've been planning my end game spec for five-mans, and the crit bonuses from deep survival tree look just awesome. The only thing that could make this tree better is if I could fit in Mortal Shots. To do that though, I would need to trim some fat from the survival tree.

My first thoughts on this 'trim' is resourcefulness vs thrill of te hunt, but I am unsure which is better. Currently I am unable to go down to Readiness without spending a total of 46 points. Here is my current build.

Any help would be much appreciated :)

edit: before I get downrated, I would like to say I did look at the 0/20/41 in the sticky, but I feel it gives up too much CC utility to be worth it. Wyvern sting looks like so much fun with readiness. Also, is deterrance worth it as an "oh sh*t!" button?

Edited, Apr 13th 2008 11:05pm by Untoucheable

Here is my build. I typically don't use the end talents in each tree. I have ran Kara numerous time and able to do just fine. I use to have all my points in SV and decided I didn't need some of the stuff in that tree. I found that when putting points in MM (past aim shot) I actually get about 2-3% more crit on my rating. Hope this helps!

Spec MM/SV:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/hunter/talents.html?0000000000000000000000505231205011220000033300012500302300500200


Honestly clever trap is the only thing you need. That will reduce the cooldown time enough for you to retrap. I typically don't use the wyvern sting. I like to use scatter shot and wait for my trap. I typically do not have trouble with CC with this spec, but we usually have plenty of cc if my breaks. You may be in a different situation.

Edited, Apr 14th 2008 12:51pm by joshbozarth

Edited, Apr 14th 2008 12:56pm by joshbozarth

Ok, I gotta ask. Why do these builds not include Master Tactician? Does it not last long enough to get a crit out of it or not proc often enough?

I figured it would synergize well with GftT, Mortal Shots, Thrill of the Hunt, and Expose Weakness. I could be missing something, but that talent was my main inspiration for the SV tree.

Yuppley. May I see your armory link? Just curious what you have set up.

Edited, Apr 15th 2008 12:17pm by joshbozarth

LOL u is olny lvl 644 nub!!11!one

Breaking out the chains and whips might speed that process up a bit.

Once again I findmyself disagreeng with aethien on Readiness, I've been playing survival for a few months now at 70 and readiness has saved a number of runs/raids from wipes, both with emergency retrapping after someone aoe's, and with two wyvern stings in a pinch. the who wyvern stings are also good in arena.


On another note, deterrance is very much worth your points. It'll allow you to tank a mob till you can activate a trap, or give you a good chance to counterattack and move away. It's a VERY useful ability.

Edit - I got a couple points in improved crit damage which has done well for me.

Also, Master Tactitian procs more than I expected. it might not be the best talent out there, but if you're using a crit-heavy spec like SV, it's a decent ability.

Edited, Apr 18th 2008 12:43pm by concolor

I agree with dbernor. You don't necessarily need readiness and wyvern sting. These points can definately be put somewhere more useful. The only exception would be in my opinion if you were the only CC in the raid, the other hunters are BM or MM (not SV specced), or you have issues where alot of traps are being broken. If your are the only CC or traps are being broken, either way you are in for a long raid. I am fortunate enough to have several CCs in our raid group, which allows for the others to focus more on dps and back up as CC. Which allows for us to put the points elsewhere.

I guess he didn't say anything about the wyvern sting, but I did. =)

Edited, Apr 18th 2008 12:50pm by joshbozarth

Edited, Apr 18th 2008 12:52pm by joshbozarth

-1 ToTh for readiness is very much worth it imo, especially if your guild has brains and uses a retadin in raids.